I am a Vaxxer

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  1. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

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    use Bragg's apple cider vinegar to cure the problem - there are many videos in youtube which show you how to use it properly
     
  2. Collateral Damage

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    Nope, at least not for me.

    There would have been no expectation of exposure, like going to a country where let's say Malaria is prevalent, one gets a vaccination for that.

    Shall we also get vaccinated for Athlete's foot, and other assorted annoyances? Back at the Right of Choice.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it's funny that you don't know how many people it's killed, and that you posted it publicly.
     
  4. Collateral Damage

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    This is where 'philosophies' differ. Mine says it is your choice. Your says, if you don't do it the way I think you should, you are 'nuts'.

    See the difference?
     
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    There was false information about the dangers of vaccines and it created a paranoia. Unless there is a medical reason, I think some vx should be mandatory.
    Look at small pox and how horrible that disease was. Vx eradicated it.
     
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    I understand that. I still support the right of choice. Yours is to get vaccinations, I'm fine with that. Person X does not like the idea of vaccinations, and I'm fine with that too.

    It is not my place to make people's choices for them.
     
  7. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    No one has the right to put the health of the community at risk.
     
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    What pressure exactly is being put on you?
     
  9. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can't vaccinate everyone against everything, there will always be disease out there.
     
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    I agree, kaze, but you can vaccinate against the crippling and killer diseases.
     
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  11. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This looks kind of interesting:



     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Legal expenses for civil liability lawsuits are a huge part of the expenses for medical product companies.

    Not just medical product companies but all medical providers. There are many doctors who pay over $100,000 a year in medical liability insurance, depending on the field. That's just standard practice.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some of the main ones, yes, but there will still be deadly debilitating diseases out there.
    I was just pointing out that vaccination won't make all of the risk go away.

    I'm sure it wouldn't be good for our immune systems to be innoculated against so many serious things either. It probably puts a tax on the immune system, and could lead to elevated immune response (not a good thing, could lead to constant very mild symptoms similar to autoimmune disease, low level inflammation which is not obviously medically detectable, increased risk of arthritis).
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How is your health at risk if you got the vaccination for it?

    Or are now you saying that vaccines aren't that effective and you could still catch it even if you've been vaccinated for it?
     
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  15. JakeStarkey

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    kazenatsu tries to shift the danger to the community wrongly to an individual basis.

    No individual has the right to threaten the community's health.
     
  16. JakeStarkey

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    We note the anti-vaxxers complete inability to discuss this topic point for point.

    They keep shifting.

    The issue is always on the side of public safety not individual choice.
     
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    Yes no vaccine is 100% effective. If you dont know this basic stuff perhaps this topic is not for you
     
  18. JakeStarkey

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    Yes, kazenatsu argued that silly point. But not vaccinating makes the point 0% ineffective. Does kazenatsu want to destroy the health of American communities?
     
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    Not following your question.
     
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    So because you have a false sense of security, everybody must be subject to that false sense of security?
     
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    You forgot the 'But it's for the children!' melodrama.

    If people have been vaccinated, where are these rouge diseases coming from?
     
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    They come from countries where not all people have been vaccinated, and then they propagate in areas of this country where vaccination rates are relatively low.
     
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    Yes. Because it works
     
  24. Collateral Damage

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    So why are they not screened, and given the appropriate treatments before they are allowed to enter this country?
     
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    So, we should eliminate all concerns for your personal welfare, before they happen?
     

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