I finally got a vaccination--big mistake.

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We would not have any of the vaccines today except for the action Trump took. Biden would have nothing to brag about.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    fake news, Pfizer was not even a part of warp speed and all the different vaccine creators finished at about the same time, regardless if Trump involved or not

    and there is a reason were shipping it in from overseas

    but if it makes the right want to take it, fine, believe it
     
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    Two weeks ago I applied a AeroPlast plastic bandage to my stomach.
    Big mistake. Next day I suffered a reaction to that bandage - red welts,
    bleeding, fluid seeping from the skin around the original tiny sore - I am
    in pain as I write.
    And this reminded me of Covid vaccines. Some say we shouldn't take
    them for the reasons above. Some shops here say they won't allow
    customers in who are 'shedding' Covid viruses with 'experimental'
    vaccines.
    All medication comes with side effects. Even your plain old Aspirin
    can kill you. We must make the calculation - do we take that nasty
    Small Pox vaccine (and it is nasty) or do we live forever with Small
    Pox, the world's deadliest disease. We made the decision to suffer
    and exterminate the virus.
     
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    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    But Trump was involved so it seems a stretch for you to say he had nothing to do with it.
     
  5. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those with more soreness
    may have already had immunity!


    Ponder, please.



    "They" say there is more soreness with #2!
    We need a Covid immunity test beyond just antibody counts.



    Moi :oldman:





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    Da orange man lives large in Mr. Freshair
    Trump also sent out the first Covid stimulus checks. I haven’t met a lib not take theirs.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which means you are phase three of human clinical trials which has never been done before due to it's flaunting of ethical medical procedures.
     
  8. Hoosier8

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    By experimenting on the public at large. Drug companies and governments do not have a stellar record in this regard.
     
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    We are the wealthiest, most free, longest lived, healthiest people in history.
    Isn't it remarkable that we are a stage where we challenge the institutions
    which have made all this possible?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True. I happen to agree with Trump doing that though.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you mean by being guinea pigs in drug companies experiments?
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    All Trump did was to test it less. Back in 2020 he actually turned down one shipment. Had he stayed in office we'd probably have to pay big time for it.
     
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    The real issue is informed consent. If you are not informed, you cannot give informed consent. You have not been informed. No matter what Trump claims, and I support Trump's policies, but that does not mean he is a virologist like those warning not to get the jab.
     
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    You might want to look at what eminent virologists say about the possible long term effects of the novel treatment which may entail outcomes worse than catching Covid 19.
     
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    And there's also 'big pharma' being multinational, Capitalist, rejecting alternate medicines,
    creating a pill popping society, corporate greed etc..
    Now.... onto the next institution.

    I think we need to shift all the unhappy Westerners to a third world country where they can
    enjoy 'natural' things like the air, food and medicines - and let all the poor, hungry and
    diseased natives shift to the West.
     
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    And if you don't get it you're still in them. Just that one of the main recordkeepers are funeral parlors.
     
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    What 'eminent virologist' ?
    How long before 'novel treatments' are allowed to be mainstream, and how
    do we get there if we don't use them because they are 'novel.' ?
    Would you have taken any novel treatments in the 1800's and 1900's ?
     
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    No, if you don't accept being a guinea pig you may actually be safer since catching the virus will protect you much better than a dangerous experimental treatment that may make things worse. You probably don't realize how safe you are without the experimental treatment.

    During the 1918 pandemic no media was needed to place fear in your heart. One in ten died. Today you need the media to feed you fear porn.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I hope you never find out.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You complete ignored what Warp Speed did to politicize.

    Warp speed cut down to 9 months the time to approve a vaccine.

    Thank Trump for that vaccine being out today.
     
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    Read up on Warp speed so you learn the facts.
     
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    The one that got a Nobel Prize for his work on HIV. No doubt these could be miracle treatments but have not been put in use due to failed animal clinical trials. This alleged vaccine went through no animal trials and passed phase 1 and 2 of human clinical trials. Phase three usually takes one to two years but was skipped with Emergency Release Authorization to provide mass public phase three human trials and with that, phase four is now redundant. Anyone getting the shot now is the participant in an experiment never done before during modern medicine due to the unforeseen risks.

    The survival rate of the vaccine outweighs the risk of experimental treatments. Now they are pushing it on the least affected teenagers. This is a boon to drug companies as they are making billions off of it. Politicians profit by support from drug companies. The only ones not profiting are the virologists warning of the dangers.
     
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    I hope you don't either since you are an experimental guinea pig.
     
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    You might want to link us to whatever source you are getting your night terrors from.
     

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