ICC issues arrest warrant for Putin and Russian official tied to alleged deportation of Ukrainian ch

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  1. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Putin saved those children from misery, injury and certain death. He did that out of the goodness of his heart, I believe. He is a Christian man.
    WHY didn't Zelensky take care of the children? That should have been his foremost concern.
     
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    Laughably untrue. Many of them have family (which Russian war criminals haven't murdered yet) and they were forcibly abducted. Russia wouldn't let the children leave Russian occupied areas to be reunited with their families. Everyone from the soldiers who carried it out to the dictator who ordered this attempted genocide will be dogged until their dying day. Have fun.
     
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    :roflol::roflol:....this is too funny. Saved the children from misery....by bombing them in churches??

    That's a f***ing good one.
     
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  4. Durandal

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    Huh? It's Putler who is bombing Ukrainian cities to rubble.
     
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    Of course, Americans are so used to killing, they don't blink an eye anymore, but go from one country to the next to slaughter people, torture people and destroy their livelihoods. The Americans are responsible for the deaths of 500 000 Iraqi children.

    Read here:

    I'm an Iraqi and I Remember Madeleine Albright for Who She Truly Was
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    I remember the sanctions era in Iraq very well. And when the former U.S. secretary of state said the death of 500,000 children in the country "was worth it," I remember that too.

    keep reading....

    https://www.commondreams.org/views/...remember-madeleine-albright-who-she-truly-was
     
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    For anyone who wants to properly contextualize these remarks:

    Plenty more where that came from. Make of that what you will.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-were-his-nazis.289409/page-5#post-1062305134
     
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    Hmmmm, one post attacking Zelensky, another attacking Madeline Albright. I wonder what these two people have in common. Just can't quite put my finger on it.....

    Ah! there it is.

    ....again, plenty more where that came from. Make of that what you will.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-for-their-time.596942/page-8#post-1073269133
     
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    You have been so thoroughly brainwashed, it is hard to take you seriously.
    I just searched the web. The mainstream media is having a field day and is practically falling over themselves with accusations of brutally kidnapped thousands over thousands of Ukrainian children. Not a single neutral news outlet in sight. I think, it would be save to bet there are not even that many children around without parental care. This whole affair is blown up without proportions, just to accuse Putin.

    Why are you Americans so eager to accuse Putin of war crimes, when you, and I mean you Americans and British bombed every German City to smithereens, full well aware, that you would kill mainly women, children and a few old people. As a kid myself I watched night after night some 200 to 400 bombers fly over our house towards Kiel. It didn't take long and the sky turned red. Kiel was burning! My aunt with three children would be sitting in a bunker while the bombs rained down.

    When will you finally come to your senses and stop attacking and killing other people?
     
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    Yawn. Our resident Russians sure do love their usual deflections and false equivalencies. No wonder they get called orcs for trying to justify genocide. Whataboutism is a big yawn.
     
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    I'm glad, that shut you up!! Didn't take much to fell an US Vet!
     
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    That one isn't Russian. German born Nazi supporter. Birds of a feather....
     
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    Vladdie clearly took the children Bill, the evidence presented to the ICC goes up to him. One question you should ask is why?! Thoughts?
     
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    Bush kidnaped children from Iraq?
     
  15. Jack Hays

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    No crime in either Afghanistan or Iraq.
     
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    I don't wanna deep dive this damn claim but to just put this asinine statement to bed, here's one.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings
    " war crimes involving the gang-rape and murder of 14-year-old Iraqi girl Abeer Qassim Hamza al-Janabi and the murder of her family by United States Army soldiers on March 12, 2006."

    Not black rock. United States Army.

    Abu Gharib also should be checked out.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse

    "During the early stages of the Iraq War, members of the United States Army and the CIA committed a series of human rights violations and war crimes against detainees in the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, including physical and sexual abuse, torture, rape and the killing of Manadel al-Jamadi.[3][4][5][6] The abuses came to public attention with the publication of photographs of the abuse by CBS News in April 2004. The incidents caused shock and outrage, receiving widespread condemnation within the United States and internationally.[7]"

    Again. Not Blackrock, the US army and CIA have dirty hands here. And even if you try to hide behind Blackrock, understand that they were a private military company who was CONTRACTED by the United States government. Which again, makes them culpable by extension. Just as I hold the Putin government responsible for all actions taken by Wagner group since they are operating in the interests of the Russian government.

    Don't push me to deep dive this, and let's just accept that America has it's share **** pile. So

    So accept the claim that the United States has dirty hands and since Bush was the commander and chief at the time he owns responsibility. Let's move on.
     
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    There are crimes committed in every war. The US record is quite good in this regard, and the examples you cite do not implicate GWBush.
     
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    Placed with Russian families?
    So kidnapping, Nothing dishonest about it.
     
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    Since he was the commander and chief, it makes him as responsible as it would Putin for the actions of his soldiers. I'm speaking more of the rape, torture of civilians and less about the order to kidnap mass groups of children.
     
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    No, it does not. Your claim is false both as matter of international law and moral judgment.
     
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    Was the United States justified in attacking/invading and occupying Iraq or Afghanistan? I would claim we were not, and thus any crimes committed as a result fall on the shoulders of the person responsible for giving that order.

    You are right to blame Putin for all actions done to Ukraine. But you cannot have a double standard here.
     
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    Deflection....distraction....yawn.
     
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    It is a single standard, by which Putin is guilty and Bush is innocent.
    The Iraq War Reconsidered
    David Frum, The Atlantic



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    The U.S.-led invasion was a grave and costly error. But 20 years on, another assessment is possible. Read More
     
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    Was matter Billy....bad hair day....Putler got an arrest warrant....Finland in NATO....:).

    Posted noted BTW....and forwarded to appropriate depts.
     
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    I don't get the relevance.
    Because the prosecutors brother is a criminal, it means the judges ruling is faulty in the mind of a putin apologist?

    How did the prosecutor have him released? You sure it wasn't his bothers defence attorney who should get credit for that?
     
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