If you refuse the vaccine, you don't matter. It's the people you infect that matter!

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  1. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    I'll play your own game. That's not evidence it exists!

    NEPAL?! Who and what the F is in NEPAL?!

    What about the US, UK, AUS, CAN, NZ, SA, RUS. Why haven't they found it, identified it?
    A backwater viral lab set up in a shanty in Nepal!? Just like how all the COVID theatrics started. In a wet market in China that happened to be near the Wuhan lab.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gosh.. this didn't age well. How many folks has the Biden administration all by themselves infected? Oh, and aren't they all super vexed?
     
  3. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you really DO believe that Covid doesn't exist, and that all the news of deaths is a worldwide conspiracy?

    I will save this as a good post for pointing and sneering.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Super vaxed people matter. They did everything in their power to protect themselves and, more importantly, to protect others. The only use for un-vaxed people who die of Covid is as negative examples Holds today just as well as it held when I wrote it!
     
  5. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Did you hear the new joke? "A bat and a pangolin walked into a wet bar in Wuhan....." :angel:
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Those who've taken the shots THOUGHT they did everything in their power to protect themselves, but they were wrong. They were scared silly and lied to by Fauci & Pharma.

    Did you know that there are liars in this world? People who make things up and tell lies? Yes, they exist. Sadly, they seem to accumulate mostly in high government offices and Wall Street.

    Caveat Emptor still applies today, even though we don't speak Latin anymore.
     
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    What about the people you infect after you get the vaccine?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The worldwide conspiracy is correct, but it's too damn blatant for you to understand.

    Yes I know, pointing and sneering is about all you have to work with.
     
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    ---said the guy who imagines a "worldwide conspiracy" which exists only in his imagination. Tell us about the "evidence" for this "worldwide conspiracy".
     
  10. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Reiner Fuellmich has led the investigation in Europe. Months ago he conducted hearings and deposed witnesses. If you are sincere about wanting to know the evidence (I very much doubt you are) look it up.

    Also see David E. Martin. Try reading Robert Kennedy's book The Real Anthony Fauci.

    My bet is that you're so deeply in denial that you will exclude and reject any information that threatens your worldview.

    Dr. Reiner Fuellmich - Summary of findings of the Corona Investigative Committee. 15 September 2021 - Bing video
     
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    See, this is the actually problem. Having been vaccinated doesn't obviously protect anyone else. In fact, the vaccinations weren't designed to help anyone else because clearly, they don't offer any protection on infecting others once you, the vaccinated person, is infected. We know this, and clearly, lots of folks who interacted with the WH teams come away infected. So, when you look at the public health benefits of having been vaccinated, it is hard to actually quantify them. You can, and folks do, still become infected. And folks can, and have died even after their vaccinations. And folks do, and are spreading COVID post vaccination. These are the facts of it. And perhaps having been vaccinated has made the consequences of those infections less lethal (open question not substantively demonstrated in the actual data yet) but that hasn't in any way slowed or otherwise stopped folks from becoming infected.
     
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    I'll watch the video later, but I see that you're relying on kooks in general. ****ing Kennedy? *LOL*

    Fuellmich = kook:

    https://www.poynter.org/?ifcn_misin...ovid-19-tests-which-gave-governments-worldwid

    Kernnedy = longtime kook:

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-robert-f-kennedy-jr-distorted-vaccine-science1/

    David Martin = whacko:

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/new-plandemic-video-peddles-misinformation-conspiracies/
     
  13. Eleuthera

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    Nemesis

    Thank you for demonstrating how valid Orwell's observations about society and human behavior were a century ago.

    In a time of universal deception, speaking the truth is a radical act.

    Fuellmich and Kennedy present the truth, and you consider it radical and reject it. :lol:

    Or from Dresden James: When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.

    You have convinced yourself that Fuellmich, Kennedy and the others who've called out the fraud are raving lunatics. Have a look in the mirror sir.
     
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    "Speaking the truth"? *LOL*

    You've presented nothing to suggest any "truth", "facts" or logic. Try again.
     
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    What else in their power could they have done to protect themselves, then?
     
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    Yes it does! Vaccinated people are less likely to become infected. You can't infect others if you yourself are not infected.

    This is like... kindergarten level epidemiology.
     
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    The data doesn't support your contention. Show the data that demonstrates that vaccinated people were prevented from becoming infected. Most of the Biden administration are the example, if you needed one, that demonstrates just how false this assertion is.

    And if we were actually discussing vaccines, you might be right. But we aren't. We're discussing "anti viral" technology that doesn't actually create prophylactic benefit. But you already know it. Kindergarten teachers... now that's a scary thought. Been to libs on tiktok recently?
     
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    I think the term 'denialist', fits the bill.

    denialist
    noun
    1. a person who refuses to admit the truth of a concept or proposition that is supported by the majority of scientific or historical evidence

    Example: "the small minority of very vocal climate change denialists"
     
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    Obviously it's a personal decision, at least it used to be until the government and industry decided they know better than any individual.

    My position has been that my immune system is robust according to my doctor. I do supplement.

    I see no need for pharmaceutical intervention to 'protect' me from a virus with a 99% survival rate. More, like the Global War On Terror, these shots were brought under fraud thanks to Pharma and FDA and Warp Speed.
     
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    No! You said (quoting you) "Those who've taken the shots THOUGHT they did everything in their power to protect themselves, but they were wrong."

    So my question was: What else, besides following CDC guidelines (which include the shots) could they have done to protect themselves? If the answer is "nothing", then you have debunked your claim that they were wrong when they "THOUGHT" they did everything.

    And if they did do everything, then they matter. Those who DIDN'T do everything, like the OP describes, don't.

    What the hell made you think that any of this is about YOU?
     
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    To protect themselves, they needed to inform themselves. They needed to recognize and step back from the massive fear-mongering that the media and government were using, calm down, understand that the IFR for the virus was 1% or less, understand that poor nutrition was a huge factor in poor outcomes after infection, and strengthen their immune systems with nutritional supplements including sunlight.
     
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    I would think the flu shot more important than the jab to keep from infecting others and reducing death. When's the last time someone told you to feel guilty if you don't get the flu shot? When is the last time 10 year olds were being positioned to have to take a flu shot?
     
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