Illegal land grabs spreading across South Africa

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  1. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure... if you can leave by all means do so, but you must donate... if you leave South Africa then please... a one off donation or a small monthly amount goes a long way. You must help those who CAN'T leave.

    To demonstrate the CAN'T leave I'll use the example of Nicky and her family who experienced brutal torture and rape over a period of several hours... you can read her story here

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/na...n/news-story/603c4116631899ffb309a026dd0f75ed

    She applied for asylum in Australia, said please... minorities in South Africa are suffering severe persecution...

    and here is the Australian Governments response

    http://www.redgumgrafx.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/02091.jpg
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's nice T, thanks for sharing. I will reciprocate.

    I'm obsessed because not only do I still have friends and family there, but I care about the people.... and not just the white people... I care about the whole country, because their fate is intermingled. They are however approaching a point where they are going to have to separate from the destructive tribes and rebuild with the other minorities who are also in the same boat.

    I raised my children as Australian, I never wanted them to feel torn between two cultures, they are proudly Australian and so am I. Migration was much easier for me when the country was fine... but it's difficult sitting here and watching the whole place crumble....so I do what I can.
     
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    Man this fake news white supremacist thread gets around it was just here two weeks ago spamming us as usual like this thread....But the white people took the land from the natives of the area so it would only be fair for the natives to take it back..
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Afrikaner have survived in Africa for almost 400 years... they know Africa, they've waged war in Africa for most of that time. This is why they don't want war... because they KNOW war. But things are deteriorating at a pace that may well bring them to a point where the only choice is fight or die, it will not be the first time... nor the second...
     
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    The Black tribes are nomads and the whites were in Africa for 160 years before they even encountered the Bantu tribes. The map above indicate the area that belongs to the whites and the other minorities

    The eastern part of South Africa belongs to the Bantu and Zulu tribes...these are also the higher rainfall areas btw as the Black South African have never drilled for water.. the concept of a bore hole is foreign to them and they couldn't survive in the western part of the country.

    Your white supremacist labels are irrelevant, since the Khoi and San are not white nor are the descendants of the slaves... therefore it clearly is meant as a smear and will be rejected as ignorance and hate.

    The ANC had the opportunity to do something great, instead they destroyed an entire civilisation in under 25 years. This is on them... they only have themselves to blame
     
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    Legally obtained during thug apartheid rule.... yeah.
    That doesn't really cut the cake.

    white master race....
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apartheid began in 1948... the Afrikaner's land claim goes back to 1652. May I suggest you educate yourself because all you're doing is trolling

    Besides as far as I personally am concerned, the ANC had their chance and they blew it... in fact it they are responsible for probably one of the biggest most epic **** up's in human history...

    oh btw as I pointed out previously, the Afrikaner is not strictly white... educate yourself

    Here let me help you... this lady is Afrikaans (clearly by her accent)

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...4EB71B7735948C5747D74EB71B773594&&FORM=VRDGAR

    https://binged.it/2Y3TVcM
     
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    yeah... and there were equal rights before 1948. Sure buddy, sure.
    The entire world knows how you white folks went at it for centuries.

    You white folks just hate it that you got outvoted with the idea that reparations are long over due.
    You white folks blew it. You really blew it.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have NO idea what you are talking about... in fact you are transposing your own American history onto South Africa.... and they are vastly different. Do yourself a favour and familiarise yourself with South African and African history. As a black American it will be a liberating experience for yourself and provide a deeper understanding... clearly you carry quite the burden.
     
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    You don't even know if I'm American. So spare me the tears of what I do not know.
    Face it. White people took it as good as all in SA, and now they've been outvoted on reparations. And fair dues. The advantage the white population thugged together was too immense to overcome by just putting your back into it. It would have taken centuries. And that's not fair for the people alive today.

    Because at the end of the day it's allways with you lot ... why should somebody who inherited the real estate from gramps give it to some black dude who never was oppressed? But it's never about ,.. why should that black dude live in absolute poverty and misery because of the wrongs in the past. And it's not 1 black dude... it's about 90% of the entire population. It's never about looking at it like that.
     
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    South Africa and all it's wealth was turned over to the ANC in 1996, and instead of helping their fellow black man out of poverty they stole their future.... billions and billions have disappeared and a tiiiiny ANC minority is now extremely wealthy... while millions of blacks suffer and die in faeces and poverty... it is indeed a tragedy.

    The Afrikaner must now survive... South Africa is lost and they must save themselves before they can save anyone else.
     
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    SA never was rich. Get real. All it's resourced that were spend on as good as on only white people,... like the police and fire department,... suddenly only 10% was there because the rest of the 90% of the country got access to it. Same with schools and universities. Electricity, water, sewages ... and so on. Mandela spend millions on building houses for the black population who on purpose were impoverished due to their skin color. You get nothing in return for that stuff. It's just one massive black hole where the wealth disappeared... to bring the black population on par with what the white population had for centuries.

    They could have kicked out the white population out of their homes, and made them live in little huts from corrugated galvanised iron to bring them down to the level of the rest of the country. Would have been much cheaper.
     
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    He's not Black, but he's thrilled beyond measure that you thought he was.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :roflol: I'm amazed at the amount of crap you can pull out of your ass

    Here... let me rub this in your face :lol:


    The Lie Of Apartheid: In 1988, a German book published how benevolent the White giant of Africa actually was. Below are some of the facts referencing 1988

    In 1972, South African Blacks owned 360,000 vehicles. (More than all the black African states together)

    The monthly income of Blacks per capita in 1988 was R352 per month in South Africa – Malawi and Mozambique were less than R20 per month.

    In 1988 Black people could undergo a complicated heart valve surgery for just more than $ 1 while Black Americans had to pay
    $ 15,000. In a Pretoria hospital between 2,000 and 3,000 of these surgeries were done per year.

    In 1970, Black workers earned R1,751 million, or 25.5% of the total wage fees in South Africa and increased to R17,238 million in 1984 (1,000% growth) and 32.3% of total wages in South Africa.

    In the 1986/1987 financial year, Whites paid R9,000 million and Blacks R171 million tax. Indians paid R257 million and Coloreds paid R315 million on tax.

    Between 1962 and 1972 the United Nations paid $ 298 million to underdeveloped countries compared to South Africa that spent $558 million on the development of its Black areas.

    The budget amount for Black education increased every year from 1970 to almost 30% more than any other Government Department.

    From 1955 to 1984 the number of Black scholars increased from 35,000 to 1,096,000. In 1988 71% of the adult Black population could read and write versus 47% in Kenya, 38% in Egypt and 34% in Nigeria. On average during the year 15 new classrooms per working day were built for Black scholars.

    In 1985 there were 42,000 Black students enrolled at South African universities.

    There were 5 Black universities and 28 higher education institutions funded by the Government.

    Soweto with its population of 1.2 million, had 5 modern stadiums versus Pretoria with its 600,000 Whites who had three. Soweto had 365 schools versus Pretoria 229.

    In Soweto in 1978, there were 115 football fields, three rugby fields, 4 athletic tracks, 11 cricket fields, two golf courses, 47 tennis courts, 7 swimming pools, 5 bowling halls, 81 basketball fields, 39 children playgrounds and countless community halls, cinemas and clubhouses.

    In Soweto in 1978, there were 300 churches, 365 schools, 2 technicons, 8 clinics, 63 kindergartens, 11 post offices and its own fruit and vegetable market.

    The White Government built a huge hospital Baragwanath 3,000 beds in Soweto. One of the largest and most modern hospitals in the world.

    Its 23 operating theaters were equipped with the best equipment money can buy.

    Here Blacks were treated at a nominal cost of R2 for an unlimited period.

    In 1982, no fewer than 898 heart surgeries were done here.

    Next to the Baragwantha Hospital is the St. John-eye clinic, famous for the treatment of glaucoma, previous fix retinas, traumatic eye injuries and rare tropical diseases.

    There were over 2,300 registered firms, 1,000 taxi operators and 50,000 car owners in Soweto.

    Dr. Kenneth Walker, a Canadian physician, visited Soweto and made the following observations:

    He saw several houses worth more than R100 000 with various BMW’s at the door.

    Only 2% of homes were shacks with neat buildings with lawns. If he had to choose between the decaying apartments in New York, Detroit or Chicago than he would rather stay in Soweto.

    He’d rather be very ill in Soweto as in some Canadian cities.

    He says the city has more schools, churches, cars, taxis, and sports fields than any other independent African state.

    In 1978, the South African Government built a highly modern hospital MEDUNSA on the border of the independent state of Bophuthatswana at a cost of R70 million on 35 hectares. In this “city” they had living and sleeping facilities for male and female students.

    Black doctors, dentists, veterinarians and para-medical staff were trained. It was the only specialized university of its kind in Africa and one of the few in the world financed by White taxpayers exclusively to benefit Blacks. Almost all students who mainly came from the national homelands costs were taken care of by the Government.

    The practical training took place in the nearby Garankuwa Hospital farm where the whole range of human ailments were covered.

    Garankuwa had the facilities for kidney transplants, isotopes units with specialized laboratories where 200 doctors were trained practically every year.

    South Africa provided training for the airline personnel of Swaziland, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zaire and the Comores.

    In 1979, when the train traffic to the Malawian capital Lilongwe was interrupted by rebels, South Africa sent transport aircrafts with fuel drums to keep their economy going.

    In 1986, 80,000 Black businessmen from Africa visited Cape Town to finalize business deals.

    South Africa provided the grain needs of its neighboring countries and wider. In 1980, Zambia received 250 000 tons of maize, Mozambique 150,000 tons maize and 50 000 tons of wheat, Kenya 128,000 tons maize and Zimbabwe 100 000 tons. Other countries that also received South African grain were Angola, Ivory Coast, Malawi, Mauritius, Tanzania and Zaire.

    At least 12 countries of Africa, according to the “Argus African News Service” were so dependent on South Africa grain that a total ban on imports and exports would have destroyed them economically.

    About half of Lesotho’s male population worked in South Africa, about 146,000 in 1983, and earned R280,6 million which was about half of Lesotho’s treasury.

    In the 1982/83 financial year South Africa budgeted R434 million for assistance to the independent neighboring states.

    South Africa produced more electrical energy than Italy, as much crude steel as France, more wheat than Canada, more wool than the United States, more wine than Greece and more fish than Great Britain.

    South African trains ran on more rail lines than in West Germany, carried more passengers than Switzerland, had better punctuality record than Austria and exported car parts to 100 countries.

    South African mines bore down to the depth of 3,480 meters and holds the record for the deepest vertical shaft at 2,498m deep into the hardest rock in the world.

    They were accused by the world that it was a Police state:

    In South Africa had 1.4 officers for every 1,000 people whilst the world had the following: United Kingdom 2.2, Israel 3.5, New York 4.3, and Moscow 10 per 1000. In South Africa there were 16,292 White Policemen versus 19 177 Non-White.

    They were accused of killing their political offenders:

    In 1979-1980 there were no deaths in South African prisons. In the previous 10 years 37 died versus 274 in the same period in Wales and England.

    They were accused that they payed starvation wages:
    In 1974, the average monthly income of black workers in South Africa were $ 127 versus the $ 140 in the US, the richest country in the world.

    They were accused that they locked up thousands of political prisoners:

    In 1983, 127 such prisoners were confined in South Africa and 11 whose movements were limited. A further 32 were under house arrest.

    By: Thomas Burger and Heather Saladino/3rd Degree

     
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    And how much wealth did the black population get on average compared to the white population?

    If there was equal opportunity for black people, than SA would have had 3,500 white and 35,000 non-white. Bravo pointing out how freaking ugly apartheid was to all of us.
     
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    It's all in there do you want me to repost it :lol:

    Here... I'll repost the part that directly answers your question, now this time engage your brain and read it lol


    In the history thread I've posted about how people confuse Segregation with Apartheid, Apartheid is the Homeland system... it is not segregation which the British left behind. South Africa just didn't abolish segregation in the white territories and became synonymous with segregation... but there were no segregation in the black homelands.

    The biggest mistake was allowing the Nguni tribes into the Afrikaner territories, they won't make that mistake again
     
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    What a mess SA has become.

    Very sad after high hopes for the country decades ago.

    Must be so hard watching the country from afar and feeling so helpless.
     
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    yes... just like one ******* can be Germany
     
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    The Boers are on the march again! Oh, wait... :roflol:
     
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    I hope you didnt come to America
     
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    Why not???? These people sound like exactly the sort of immigrants that make a country strong.
     
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    I may have Scarlet Witch mixed up with other females who post here

    Thanks for the heads up
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol.. no I didn't, Australia... I lead a quiet and modest but high quality life... I don't bother anyone, tranquility and peace is all I want
     
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    White imperialism!
     
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