Income inequality in America...I want your thoughts on this.

I know of no one who murdered 4 million Iraqis, and I doubt that you do either.

 

There are various estimates of Iraqi casualties in the US-Iraq war, estimated by various organizations.

The general consensus seems to be at a bit over 120,000 consisting of insurgent fighter and civilians combined. This about 3% of the 4 million you stated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War#Overview._Death_estimates_by_group

Also, if Saddam Hussien had not violated UN no-fly zones (for years), not tortured and killed scores of his own people, and not invaded Kuwait, perhaps the US would have payed no attention to him. Do you have some other motive you believe caused the US to take action ? If so, let's hear it.

 

I don't see how income inequality is a good thing. That sounds mentally deranged to me (and probably most poeople as well). A far as "earning " money, NOBODY earns billions of dollars. Levels of money like that are gotten by clever manipulation of money, people, and laws.

The people in America who EARN their money are cops, firefighters, coal miners, the troops in Afghanistan, et al who risk their lives doing their jobs (and sometimes lose their lives). And these people make tiny fractions of what the billionaires in post # 448 receive.

 

Speak about placing ones head in the sand!

The Facts are readily available, and I have posted links many times previously and I'm not going to start searching again for direct links to the genocide committed by US AIPAC military or UK troops.

According to the UNHCR Mary Robertson, the illegal food for oil program, (illegal) cause approximately 4 million unnecessary Iraq deaths. The there was the illegal WMD war which didn't have UN sanctions no matter what lies your reprobates tell you! Neither did they have WMD, as the UN weapons inspector told them!
Hans Blix UN appointed said of bLiar and the other idiot Bush "they were like a couple of used car sales men selling war to their respective nations"!

Oooh and the illegal no fly zones, yes they too were illegal!
So, Saddam, ignored no fly zones, place on his nation by those who had no rights to do so over his nation? And the Iraqs are wrong??? Remove ones head from ones rectum!
Oooh and torture, you're reprobates did far better than Saddam had ever done on the torture front, but then you have a lot of experience with your secret prisons and assassination squads! In ALL nations in South America and Africa and the far east... etc etc! And of course ...... we won't mention Abu Craig! Prisoners having there testicles ripped of by American dogs! Sodomy of prisoners men and women and children, aye your heroes are amazing probably thats why so many more (more than on the battle field) are committing suicide on there return from the genocide being committed in YOUR NAME!

Oooh and we won't mention your military refusing to hand over AGAIN Bagram prison in Afghanistan. But again thats full of mass graves, torture chambers, just like many cities in Iraq where the found mass graves.
As for Kuwait, it was always part of Iraq, until the UK aristocracy annexed it for another separate dictatorship and American puppet installed as it is now!

Lets hear it ....... Lets hear it ..... you have no bloody idea, of anything including of the untold genocide and pogroms being committed by your AIPAC sponsored political system!

Hitler and Nazi Germany was a mere amateurs compared to your AIPAC owned reprobates!

No miss understanding on my part!

And that is only the tip of the iceberg thats American "democracy"!

Highlander

 

Aye ... you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink!

But then my heads not up my arse!

Regards
Highlander

 

the wealthiest have an incentive to practice better due diligence, if they may have to pay wartime tax rates, even for a war on drugs.

 

Aye, but your mantra is growing thin!

Highlander

 

Sounds like you've been listening to a lot of juiced-up propaganda. I'll concede that intervention in Iraq was excessive, but it was done by a small few in the federal govt, while deceiving many others in that same govt. And then the guy at the front (George W. Bush) cheated in the 2004 election to get re-elected (as his people did in 2000 also).

As for WMD, yes they claimed there was a "nuclear imminent threat" which there wasn't, but neither you or anyone can ever assess if Iraq had WMD in biological or chemical varieties. These can be as small as in small plastic jars hidden anywhere, (in people's dresser drawers, in trunks in attics, buried in the ground, ANYWHERE), and they could easily still be there now. I'm not saying this is necessarily a cause for war, but I'm showing showing you that you don't know as much as you think you do. Maybe if you get the AIPAC out of your head for a while, you might assess more objectively.

PS - I was referring to Afghanistan originally. That's where US troops are fighting NOW. Not in Iraq. If we wanted to discuss past grievances, hell, you could have mentioned Vietnam, and I would have agreed with you, but it's long over with.

 

It may be due to the concept of latches.

 

Bollocks! Keich!

It wasn't intervention it was an illegal war against civilians, there wasn't a standing army after the first five days! Thats called genocide!

DEcveit is lies, by your leaders, mass death was the result, andyou think for one second that shouldn't have redress in law. The bastards should stand trial for genocide!
George Bush, I have no interest in your AIPAC sponsored pretend elections.

Yes it was known at the time and stated by American Scott Ritter there were no WMD's in Iraq! FACT!
But you prefer to hide beind more lies! I am not that stupid and se things for what they are, Rogues liars and jail bait! Would this be objective enough for you?

I'm showing you you are a FOOL to think your argument holds any water! The dead bodies more than point out the facts of the matter, but as you know the dead cannot talk!

Small plastic jars, really, do you believe everyone is as stupid????:

You have no idea about what your talking about, stop listening to fox news!

Asa for American troops fighting in Afghanistan..... More Keich ...... they are committing genocide there and in Pakistan!

I give up!.

Highlander

 

Please, pray explain yourself.

I want to hear this gem!

Regards
Highlander

 

UN no-fly zones? In Iraq? LOL

The US motive for the Gulf war had nothing to do with Kuwait and everything to do with Saddam nationalizing his oil resources. And the next US war with Iraq was based on US lies.

 

Here it is:

 

Not in international law!

http://cardozojcr.com/vol13no1/Saroyan.pdf

May I be so bold to point out, the "Holocaust" and the criminal prosecution even today of individuals for war crimes.

Buit America importantly isn't the place to bring a proecution for obvious criminal reasons.

But I don't know enough of law to make any assurrsions, as you must know yourself it depends on who, ie which judge and who appointed the judge, is taking the case

http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-s-corrupt-legal-system/885

http://www.judiciaryreport.com/corrupt_judges.htm


But you spout anything you like which defends the indefensible! I don't have your axe to grind, thank god!

But then I'm Scottish!

Should I say superior to you in empathy and humanity?

Regards
Highlander

 

You may be confusing laches with eminent domain.

 

What does Saddam nationalizing his oil resources have to do with the USA ?

 

1. You're saying there is something stupid about biological WMDs being in small plastic jars ? LOL. Why ? They are tiny microbes, didn't you know ?

2. YOU don't know what YOU are talking about. For your edification, there are WMDs in almost every residential neighborhood of every city and town throughout the whole world. I guess you never heard of poison gas huh ? And i suppose you don't know where it is kept ? If you do, tell us all now, and show you have a clue. (Hint: World War I)

3. Oh so US troops in Afghanistan is genocide too according to you, huh ? And like in the last 2 notations I've made here, I suppose you have no clue on this either. OK, let's see if you can come with the 2 primary reasons why US troops are in Afghanistan.

 

Can it be a real time of war, if the wealthiest are not paying wartime tax rates, even for a war on drugs; for fiscal responsibility purposes?

 

1. I don't try and fit square peg in round holes! Bloody hell ..... small plastic jars! Would they have a Rumsfelt lable written on them???? You cannot be a little bit pregnant, you either are or your not, no middle ground! No trying to protect those degenerates for there crimes against humanity, a definition made by an American president at the end of WW2.
2. There weren't any WMDS in Iraq,REGARDLESS what you want to see! It's called genocide or pogroms but on a vast production type and scale! Aye America has a lot crimes to answer!
3. Simple thievery!

But I'll leave it for a USA military veteran who's dying to give you his advice,,,,,, on your AIPAC sponsored leaders and senators!

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/0...an-to-bush-cheney-day-of-reckoning-is-coming/

But don't let your stupidity or naïvety in the road of the facts!

Firstly you need to believe keich to believe Cheney or Bush or bLair! They have been found guilty of war crimes, again don't let stupidity or naïvety in in the road of the facts!

But then again ..... I'm Scottish and you aren't!


Regards
Highlander

 

He thinks we invaded Iraq in 1991, because Saddam nationalized the Iraqi oil industry in 1972

 

Would a previous republican president been elected twice, if we had been told our fuel prices would double, as a form of Tax burden.

 

1. Your No. 1 response is just a mess of mindless babbling, which has no relation to my No. 1 about WMDs, microbes,and small plastic jars, but then, since you have no response, I guess you just pretend to have one. Well, that's worse.

2. Maybe I need to repeat. Biological WMDs can be stored in small plastic jars and hidden ANYWHERE in the world. They could be anywhere small plastic jars can be hidden, which is just about anywhere. I can think of half a dozen places in my house where they could be hidden (if I was a terrorist), where the chances of anyone finding them would be near zero.
As for the poison gas WMDs, they are in chlorine tanks (gas which killed thousands of French troops in World War I) in millions of water treatment plants, all over the world, including in Iraq, in my neighborhood, and probably a few blocks from your home, as well (welcome to the real world).
3. I AM a USA military veteran, and it is obvious that you have NO CLUE about why the US troops are in Afghanistan fighting to protect America, and your ungrateful ass as well.
Since you are so clueless, I will allow you to become informed.

1. US troops in Afghanistan are there in response to al Qaeda using the non-nation area as a place to have training camps to teach fanatical Muslim loons how to make bombs (which could kill YOU,, and many others)

2. They need to be there to be in close proximity to Pakistan and it's 100+ nuclear warheads, so as to be able to quickly move into Pakistan and secure those warheads, in the event that the fragile Pakistani govt should fall, allowing the warheads to fall into the hands of Islamist loons. This could cause mass annihilation of the major Western cities of the world. Have you never heard of al Qaeda's outspoken "American Hiroshima" ideas ? Have you been living in a closet for the past 10 years ? You owe a great debt to those American troops for saving your butt. In fact, you ought to be over there fighting alongside of them, with the US coalition forces, instead of giving aid and comfort to the enemies of us, and that doesn't matter whether you're "Scottish" or whatever you are. The radical Muslim movement is a worldwide one, which seeks WORLD conquest (including your little 2 horse town)

file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Bob/Desktop/American%20Hiroshima%20_%20Survival%20And%20Prosperity.htm

http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...3_1_pakistani-nuclear-scientists-al-qaeda-bin

 

The idea that the rich need to be taxed more because they aren't paying their fair share is a myth. According to Peter Schiff:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324705104578151601554982808.html

Something caused the wealth gap to begin increasing in the early 70s.

In 1971, the US went off the gold standard and moved to a socialist fiat currency. Consequently, the growth rate of real GDP per capita (AKA the standard of living of the average American) shrunk in half from 1972-2011 compared to what it was from 1934-1971. Fiat currency enables the banking system to create inflation, which acts as a hidden tax - especially on the poor and middle class who are less likely to be in positions to invest in order to protect themselves from inflation, compared to the super wealthy. Inflation benefits bank stockholders, which make up a large part of the 1%ers.

Indeed, inflation was horribly out of control for the first decade that the US was on a fiat currency. The super wealthy were busy using inflation amassing a larger portion of the wealth at the expense of the middle and poor classes.

We also saw socialist banking regulations passed from the 70s-00's that massively benefited Wall Street banks, which created a moral hazard that culminated in large bank failures, and eventually the housing bubble in the early 00s. When banks and their customers are able to be bailed out, they are FAR more likely to engage in risky lending, which benefits the stockholders. There is little risk of failure because of the prospects of bailout. The 1% benefits greatly from this.

Inflation and pro-bank regulations are forms of socialism. So your video claiming for more socialism is baseless because the facts and data show evidence that socialism is the cause of the wealth disparity.

 

Had Bush2 got the phony Iraq war right and the ME hadn't started to resist the theft of their oil resources through control of their economies, perhaps the price of gas would have still been maintained artificially low. Instead, US control over ME oil resources is slipping and you find yourself in a situation where you are a have-not country that uses 20,000,000 barrels of oil a day.

Once you Americans come to understanding that, all the bits and pieces come together to give you the answer to the puzzle. The Iraq war, the reason for 911, the US presence in Afghanistan, on the Arabian peninsula, the support of the evil corrupt Saudi monarchy, the support of Kuwait and the fabricated reason for the Gulf war, and so on.

In the meantime, denial might get you by.

 

There is a lot YOU are denying, if you even are aware of it at all. You can put all your eggs into this one basket of oil theory, but there are plenty of other baskets, whether you deny them or not. (See Post # 472)

PS - can you show where one drop of Iraq's oil has come to the US (through Bush or anyone else ?)