Iran, and their nuclear missles.

Discussion in 'Nuclear, Chemical & Bio Weapons' started by Virtus, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. Virtus

    Virtus New Member Past Donor

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    With Iran recently making another breakthrough in nuclear technology, that they claim is for "non militaristic reasons," it worries me even more. Out of all the countries have nukes, Iran would be most likely to use them. Considering their country is considered one of the strongest countries in the middle east, and would very much like to insert Muslim supremacy, they are a real threat. Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would, " wipe Israel off the face of the earth." This is reason enough for countries to intervene, and stop them before they have nuclear missiles. The way I see it, avoiding war with Iran is highly unlikely.
     
  2. waltky

    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Is okay, Obama gonna kick their butt fer general purposes anyway...
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    'US Deploys Troops In Israel For Iran War'
    Wed Jan 4, 2012 - The US military is preparing a massive military campaign against Iran, sending thousands of American troops, warships and weaponry to Israel.
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    Screws tighten on Iran as big buyers shun its oil
    Thu Jan 5, 2012 - Iran faced the prospect on Thursday of cutbacks in its oil sales to China and Japan as new measures to cut off Tehran's crude exports appeared to be driving its economy to the wall.
     
  3. waltky

    waltky Well-Known Member

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    US troops in Israel too...
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    Alert: Iran Crisis Headed for World War III
    January 9, 2012 - War in the Middle East now appears imminent as the United States, Britain, the European Union, and Israel put the finishing touches on an embargo on Iran – a de facto declaration of war – and warships steam toward the Persian Gulf.
     
  4. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    making "spurious claims" like you do is what drives countries to war...not satisfied with the last illegal war with iraq built on a pyramid of lies you're all gung-ho want to start another...
     
  5. Mya

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    Clearly Iran is walking onto the path of self-destruction.
     
  6. Up On the Governor

    Up On the Governor Well-Known Member

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    Ahmadinejad does not have the political power to "wipe Israel off the Earth." He is not in charge of their nuclear program, foreign policy, or even their military. All of the crazy things he says would most likely get shot down by their Guardian Council. He does not call the shots just because his job title is "president." That position means (*)(*)(*)(*) when your supreme leader is the Ayatollah.

    Riveting analysis.
     
  7. Mya

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    We are here to please.
     
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    Up On the Governor Well-Known Member

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    Then by all means, apply your brain.
     
  9. Mya

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    My brain is in the right place as oppose to your one liners which obviously come from another place.

    That's it.
     
  10. Virtus

    Virtus New Member Past Donor

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    Umm actually, he does have power. He even defied his countries religious leaders simply by RESEARCHING nuclear technology. He has become a dictator and has gotten real power now, unlike previous presidents. It's not just a title. This is why Israel is actually worried this time.
     
  11. Idiocracy

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    He never said that and as Up on the governor said he doesn't have the power. Do you have any proof he deified his leaders about nuclear development? They seem to support the 20% enrichment now. There shouldn't be another invasion in the middle east America has eroded enough of its freedoms, and helped destabilize the regions in poverty. I wouldn't take the Israeli's government words they know they have a nuclear arsenal that can wipe Iran off the map and they know they have other countries military and intelligence backing. Besides Iran offered the IAEA a nuclear tour but Israel has refused them.
     
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    Thank you for simply stating the truth most times drives home the very heart of a matter.
     
  13. Mushroom

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    To begin with, it is very questionable if Iran even possesses the capabilities to produce a Nuclear Missile.

    Remember, historically first run nuclear weapons have been large bulky things. Even though the first Atomic Bombs were detonated in 1945, the first Nuclear Missiles were not built until 1957, 12 years later.

    Even with all the aid Israel had in it's nuclear program, it is believed that they had their first bomb by 1959-60. And their first Nuclear Missile was not ready for use until 1971.

    So even if Iran builds nuclear warheads this year, we will likely not see them small enough and a missile designed to carry them for another 6-10 years at least.
     
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    And what if Iran did have nuclear ballistic missiles?

    It would be suicide to use them.

    Israel alone could likely destroy every major Iranian city, and I am sure has contingency plans for just such a retaliation.

    And as paranoid as Iran is(with some justification) why would they not assume that the U.S. would indeed retaliate on Israel's behalf?

    Think of the scenario's here:

    a) Iran uses a nuclear armed missile against Israel- Iran's 20 largest cities would likely be destroyed or damaged. Iran's government would for all purposes cease to exist. Iran's enemies would have a wide open opportunity to attack.

    b) Iran uses non-conventional methods to detonate a nuclear weapon in Israel so Iran can claim it isn't there. Israel still retaliates- does anyone doubt that Israel would?

    c) Iran gives a nuclear weapon to a terrorist group- not a chance. Iran is not going to supply a nuclear weapon to any organization that is not under the direct, and absolute control of Iran's leadership.

    And if that bomb detonated in Israel, Israel would still retaliate.

    North Korea has not used nukes against South Korea, and Iran won't use them against Israel. None of their leaders wants to die that much, or watch their personal fiefdom go away.
     
  15. highlander

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    Mmmm...if you could only get one fact right...I would have some faith in the American education system!
    You cannot get an investigation into 9/11.
    You cannot stop American torture!
    You cannot stop American secret torture chambers and secret American prisons!
    Your country invaded illegally Iraq and murdered on a scale that even American forces are so ashamed that they are committing suicide in huge numbers! Millions murdered to give them freedom.....bollocks!
    You cannot get an investigation into the USS Liberty and those American murdered by your ZIONIST FRIENDS! Who just happen to own your senators and congress men and women!
    Obama requested the military close Gitmo...and they refused!

    What's it like being a mushroom......kept in the dark...and fed with Keich!

    Regards
    Highlander
     
  16. Haplo

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    If 20 Iranian cities were destroyed by nuclear explosions, there would be so much residual radiation in the country that no one would be able to survive there for long enough to attack anything.
     
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    What it like......having ones face in-bedded in the sand?
    Iran has no nuclear bomb....only the idiot in America would be stupid enough and ignorant enough to use bombs such as these....perhaps you need to look closer at the degenerates their before they have a chance to do so!

    Well it certainly wouldn't be israel that would attack! Those Nazi degenerates are good at murdering unarmed men women and children but reticent when the likes of Hezbollah is in front of them! Down right shy I'd say!
    Nah.....Israel owns America and the political system...it will be Americans laying down there lives for a lost cause!

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/220920.html

    Time some sort of reality surfaced in the American media rather than the Zionist press propaganda!

    Regards
    Highlander
     
  18. Haplo

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    Did I say that we should nuke them?

    No. I did not.
     
  19. antileftwinger

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    War is pointless for both Iran and NATO, and atleast if Iran has nuclear weapons we aren't going to attack, and then we can shift to getting rid of the Saudi scum, and stop selling billions in weapons to them.
     
  20. Albert Di Salvo

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    Iran wants to create threats to America which have the effect of weakening American power. A reduction of American power means a decline in the standard of living in the country. Iran wants to drive America out of the middle east and the expand its influence and power worldwide. That's why Ahmadinejad has been visiting Venezuela, Ecuador, Nicaragua and Cuba this week.
     
  21. Mushroom

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    Yet you go on and on about a bunch of things that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

    Why not stick to the topic, and away from your antisemitic rants that have nothing to do with Iran, their missile program, or their nuclear program?
     
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    The Saudi's did 9/11, or should I say most of the people who did 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia. And the UK helped the US in all the other stuff. The ultra Zionists aren't very good, but I would rather have them, than the Saudi's.
     
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    I agree to that. They are more and more putting themselves into a position with no return.
    They are surrouned by neighbours who don't like them, many of them equiped with the newest kind of technology you can buy in western europe and the US and also surrounded by US military bases.

    If they really continue their programm it is probably only going to be a matter of time until something will happen.
    When Israel starts attaking their nuclear facilities their is going to be a point of no return.
     
  24. Albert Di Salvo

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    I don't support Obama's use of force anywhere on the planet. He'll only get Americans killed with his Iranian nonsense. Where is the American leftist anti-war movement? It's silent. Bunch of complete hypocrites.
     
  25. wyly

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    the west not just Obama is certainly pushing Iran into a war...what's happening now is similar to the trade sanctions placed on Japan that strangled it's economy before WW2 when it finally felt cornered and lashed out...
     

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