Iran attacking Israel

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  1. Farnsworth

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    Which doesn't conflate to being the right course.

    And, I agree Netanyahu's domestic social policies pandering to Israel's far right are a disaster waiting to happen, but his wartime policies are better than the alternatives. Sometimes all the options are bad, and it's a matter of finding the least bad option; Kissinger was right about that.

    Netanyahu is right to ignore Biden's admin and policy disasters. These atrocities by Hamas and the Iranian proxies are almost entirely a result of those policies and the feckless cowardice of Biden and the Democrats and their dog whistles to terrorists.

    As for Jewish influence on American social and foreign policies, it's a real thing, and subject to criticism like any other demographic's is, including Jewish commentary.In the case of 'liberal' Jews their support of radical leftists in the 1950's and 1960's blew up in their faces, as Patrick Moynihan pointed out, yet many still mindlessly vote Democrat anyway.

    https://jewishaction.com/opinion/rabbi-mayer-schiller/
     
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    It's an act of desperation and revenge on the part of Iran. The also have to make moves while Biden is still Prez, with an uncertain election outcome in the U.S. coming up. I doubt their embarrassment was something they planned on and expected.
     
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    Oh leave the peace BS behind, it stinks of ****.

    Just 4 days after Hammas invaded Israel and killed over a thousand people, over 800 civilians and took hundred hostage were you here selling you terrible peace narrative?

    Nope.

    Because you aren't interested in civilian lives or peace when they are Israelie. What were you saying on October 11, 2023? You certainly DIDNT condemn Hammas. In fact, you didn't say a *******n thing about those thousands of murdered people mostly civilians. What you did do is make all kinds of excuses for Palestinian support for Hammas.

    In fact, you EXCUSED them.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1074471298/

    You victimized terrorists to excuse their mass murder of thousands.


    So take you morality and calls for peace and holier-than-thou mentality and sell that to somebody else. For the love of God, at least try to be consistent.
     
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    Lol.

    Of course you wouldn't see it that way, you were a perpetrator.

    It's literally EXACTLY the same.
     
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    No it couldn't.

    Palestinians and jews lived in relative peace for a very long time, sharing the same sacred land, trading, laregly respecting each others differences.

    And them the arabs saw and opportunity to exterminate them, take the land, and they siezed at the opportunity.

    Fortunaletly, they were on the losing side of that war. That resulted in Israel being created to provide a safe place for those who were attacked and attempted genocide.

    Since then the Arabs have NEVER quit fighting them for "their land". They refuse to accept a two state solution, they elect terrorist organizations, and perpetually attack. Then play victim when they get beat down.

    Same with this latest situation. Remember? Where you excused Hammas's attack but cry about Israelies repsonse?

    its played out. Nobody is buying the tears anymore except anti-semites.

    Israel tried foe decades for a 2 state solution. It's time for them to support a one-state solution of Israel and finally eradicate the barbaric Palestinians from the region. Good riddance.

    Lol @ your empty one sided calls for peace.
     
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    Yes, the fake 'humanitarian' propaganda campaign started almost overnight after their heroes committed brutal gang rapes and murdering children and recorded them for their fans in the West and the ME. Don't see any condemnation of the hostage murders either, just fake death tolls and sniveling from the antisemites and holocaust deniers.
     
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    So...you're bringing in Polish now?.....How's that work Bill?

    Whys that ...that you always feel the need to bring up "Banderas"? Not Antonio....but Stepan?

    Are you a closet admirer?
     
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    Lol, how is that excusing them in any way???
    It is also great pain that is driving Israel to do what it is doing.
    That does not excuse either party, as I have said since day 1.
    Maybe you crave more war, more slaughter of innocents. I do not, whether it is Israelis or Hamas dying.
    So, you can leave your slaughter BS behind. It stinks of **** and rotting corpses.

    You are victimizing Israelis, who are not even dying, to excuse the mass murder of TENS OF THOUSANDS of innocents, while they continue to have vital aid denied.

    I fully condemn the actions of Hamas, as I have since day one. I imagine you will never condemn the actions of Israel, and cheer as we pour billions into their slaughter effort while millions our own people here in the USA are barely able to make ends meet.

    I'll stick to my morality, thanks. If you choose not to have any, that is your choice.
     
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    Keeping supporting that slaughter! Rah rah!!!
     
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    Such nonsensical fantasyland thinking.

    I'd say something but talking to someone who believes in fantasies like the Easter bunny and Santa Claus is a waste of time.
    Israel has never accepted a two state solution, Israel elects terrorist organizations, and Israel perpetually attacks. Israel and their supporters especially like to murder toddlers.

    Well, I'll let you go back to hating Jesus and worshiping Satan.
     
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    there was already a two state solution; that's where Jordan got over 85% of the Mandate, and Arab mobs got defeated in their attempt at genocide in 1947-1948. Your lying is simply ridiculous.
     
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    that's pretty much all this pantomime is about...just a distraction.....created by Russia and Iran and China
     
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    It is amazing how some people who claim they are American patriots and military veterans who care about American soldiers suddenly forgot that Hezbollah murdered 241 American service members (1)

    Suddenly Hezbollah is involved with humanitarian work, health care and generally fulfilling the needs of the local population. No a word that Hezbollah first of all serves Iranian and not Lebanon's interests, not a word that on Iranian ordered Hezbollah sent fighters to support Syrian dictator Bashir Assad in his war against opposition or to support fight in Yemen. (2)
    Why? My guess - because Hezbollah is fighting against the Jewish State.

    (1) On October 23, 1983, Hizballah killed 241 U.S. military personnel, including 220 Marines, 18 sailors, and three soldiers in a terrorist bombing of the Marine Corps barracks in Beirut, Lebanon.
    https://www.state.gov/40th-anniversary-of-the-beirut-marine-corps-barracks-bombing

    (2) Hezbollah has long been an ally of the Ba'ath government of Syria, led by the Al-Assad family. Hezbollah has helped the Syrian government during the Syrian civil war in its fight against the Syrian opposition
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah
     
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    Funny! Let's lighten the mood even more:



     
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    lol, pulling the race card again. People are people, regardless of race or religion.

    Sorry, but the barracks bombing in ‘83 does not give Israel a green light to slaughter civilians to get to Hezbollah.
    Patriotism does not excuse it either.

    It should be fully apparent by now that military action is never going to solve anything in the Middle East. It has been going on for many decades, and no matter how many bombs are dropped by Israel or missiles fired by Hezbollah and Iran, it’s not going to bring anyone any closer to a solution.

    all it is doing is doing is killing more civilians, and perpetuating fear, hate, and suffering, which only fuels the violence.

    we need real leaders in the region to take charge and pledge to no more war, only diplomacy. Every bomb that falls only pushes an end to the conflict further away.
     
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    Sorry, iDont understand khazarian humour
     
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    The hypocrisy of the west (whites)..

     
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    Gazprom has closed the valve to Europe a bit, and Europe is turning into an economic corpse.
    At the same time, Gazprom has increased supplies in other directions. So it is clear to anyone with even a single twist in his brain: if Gazprom disappears, the world will collapse.
     
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    Great stuff. Hysteria among the Amurka haters is always entertaining.


    In real news, Europe is already bypassing Russian sources as Russia's oligarchs continue to shoot themselves in the foot. They rely on the contracted technical services and pipeline construction and refining expertise of western oil and gas corporations, like Exxon, for their infrastructure and maintenance. So does Red China.

    'Gazprom' is just a front for embezzling and money laundering run by ex-KGB thugs.
     
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    You might call western oil and gas companies "experts" but we all know they are terrorists. USA is the biggest terrorist organisation in the world according to respected Jewish scholars
     
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    Hahahaha Thanks for the additional comedy.

    Now the Peanut Gallery can merely Google scholar "Exxon Russian contracts", and find decades of 'partnerships" re oil and gas, everything from refining to pipelines to marketing to off-shore drilling. Then do the same for BP, etc., then come back and laugh at these assclowns who are supporting crime syndicates and terrorist vermin and their pathetic attempts at propaganda.
     
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    USA is the biggest terrorist in the world according to Noam Chomsky
     
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    lol so what? You do know Chomsky got rich off of contracts with the CIA, right?
     
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    LOL - I never said the barracks bombing in ‘83 gives Israel a green light to slaughter civilians to get to Hezbollah.
    I only wandered why someone who introduced himself as US veteran, who claims he cares about American soldiers so much, he don't want them to die for Israel, suddenly forgets that Hezbollah murdered 241 American service members and for him Hezbollah "is involved with humanitarian work, health care and generally fulfilling the needs of the local population", without even mentioning that Hezbollah it Iranian puppet and servs Iranian interests. Do you have any explanation for this strange phenomena?

    And the same as Hamas without any provocation on Oct 7 attacked Israel murdering about 1000 civilian, raping and kidnapping, Hezbollah without any provocation from Oct 8 2023 is bombarding Israeli northern towns and villages.

    Yes, I know - for all good people the solution for Israel is "if someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also", but when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor or Al-Qaida attacked on Sept 11, or Argentine attacked Falkland Islands - the correct solution is to fight these motherf...rs without any regard to civilian loses.
    Sometimes I wonder why Israel don't understands it.
     
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