Iran attacking Israel

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    And Austria is in Europe
     
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    Why does Chat GPT protect Jews?

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    Prof. Max Ravyn

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    I was unaware that Jews were protected by Chat GPT. I’m not sure how that would happen. Does Chat GPT bolster the Iron Dome and keep Iranian missiles from hitting their targets? Does it somehow stop students on college campuses from being attacked? I haven’t seen this. I would tell you to ask your question of Chat GPT so I did. According to Chat GPT, it doesn’t protect any group specifically and “only adheres to the principles of respect, tolerance ad non-discrimination towards all individuals, regardless of their background, ethnicity or beliefs.”

    Next, I asked, why do people discriminate against Jews? ANSWER - “There is no simple answer to this question, as discrimination against Jews can stem from a variety of causes, including prejudice, misinformation, and religious or cultural differences. Some people may discriminate against Jews because of negative stereotypes or myths about Jews that they have heard or believed. Others may do so because of their own biases or prejudices, or because they feel threatened by the perceived differences between themselves and Jews. Still others may discriminate against Jews because of political or ideological differences, or because of a desire to further their own interests at the expense of Jews. Whatever the cause, it is important to recognize that discrimination against Jews (or any other group) is wrong and harmful, and that we should strive to treat all people with respect and equality.”

    So, if you are a bigot or prejudiced, the ethic of tolerance in AI may be lost on you. The answer to your question than is: look in the mirror. It’s not Chat GPT thats flawed, it’s you and your hatred.
     
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    Why does Chat GPT protect Jews?

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    Prof. Max Ravyn

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    I was unaware that Jews were protected by Chat GPT. I’m not sure how that would happen. Does Chat GPT bolster the Iron Dome and keep Iranian missiles from hitting their targets? Does it somehow stop students on college campuses from being attacked? I haven’t seen this. I would tell you to ask your question of Chat GPT so I did. According to Chat GPT, it doesn’t protect any group specifically and “only adheres to the principles of respect, tolerance ad non-discrimination towards all individuals, regardless of their background, ethnicity or beliefs.”

    Next, I asked, why do people discriminate against Jews? ANSWER - “There is no simple answer to this question, as discrimination against Jews can stem from a variety of causes, including prejudice, misinformation, and religious or cultural differences. Some people may discriminate against Jews because of negative stereotypes or myths about Jews that they have heard or believed. Others may do so because of their own biases or prejudices, or because they feel threatened by the perceived differences between themselves and Jews. Still others may discriminate against Jews because of political or ideological differences, or because of a desire to further their own interests at the expense of Jews. Whatever the cause, it is important to recognize that discrimination against Jews (or any other group) is wrong and harmful, and that we should strive to treat all people with respect and equality.”

    So, if you are a bigot or prejudiced, the ethic of tolerance in AI may be lost on you. The answer to your question than is: look in the mirror. It’s not Chat GPT thats flawed, it’s you and your hatred.
     
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    Haaretz - back to home page


    IDF Ordered Hannibal Directive on October 7 to Prevent Hamas Taking Soldiers Captive

    'There was crazy hysteria, and decisions started being made without verified information': Documents and testimonies obtained by Haaretz reveal the Hannibal operational order, which directs the use of force to prevent soldiers being taken into captivity, was employed at three army facilities infiltrated by Hamas, potentially endangering civilians as well
     
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    Israel is one Mighty Mouse. David fighting Goliath. God bless Israel!
     
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    Why can't Israel kill terrorists who are conducting war against it without Iran, again, 2000km away, "retaliating" against it? If Turkey fired a few hundred missiles at Israel today, would that be reported as Turkish "retaliation"? Why is the IRGC commander 2000km away on Israel's border?

    I hear there is some sporadic fighting on the Iran/Afghanistan border, perhaps involving ISIS, and/or the Taliban. If General Petraeus was running around western Afghanistan, coordinating with Iranian enemies, and Iran droned him, would a US counterstrike be considered "retaliation"?
     
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    I think it's mostly because dropping 2000 lb bombs in populated areas is considered an act of war. Israel did it, and succeeded, and braced for retaliation, which came. That's the situation in a nutshell.

    No, because no one bombed Turkish consulate, but an Iranian consulate was bombed by Israel, killing 13 Iranians including a, Iranian Major General. A retaliation WAS expected.

    It is what it is, I am not trying to justify it, I am simply saying everyone expected a retaliation, - including US intelligence. US embassies were attacked in Kenya and Tanzania and US retaliated, - as expected.
     
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    Maybe the Iranian general was there conducting warfare. Kind of like Suleimani going to Iraq to help the insurgency fight Americans, to include developing, and transferring EFP's (the weapon technique that instantly, and dramatically increased US casualties after Bush's mission accomplishment speech) to them? It's not possible that this Iranian general was a legitimate military target?

    Besides, are people justifying US missile attacks after attacks on our embassies? Hasn't Hezbollah and/or Hamas attacked embassies? Just this year an Argentinian court ruled that Iran directed the 1994 Buenos Aires attack through Hezbollah. I guess Argentina could fire a couple hundred ballistic missiles at Iran's largest city, and receive zero UN condemnation? It's just retaliation right?
     
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    Maybe he was, but bombing a consulate in middle of a major city is an act of war either way. Israel knew that, but figured it was worth it, and it probably was. They knew a retaliation was coming, and braced for it. The rest is history.
     
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    Probably the first time I've agreed with @Pro_Line_FL but he's spot on. Bombing a consulate is terrorism. Leveling entire apartment buildings with 2,000 bombs is terrorism. Putting explosives in thousands of pagers and phones and then randomly blowing them up is terrorism. Regardless of the bullshit fed to the masses by the fake news, they have no way of knowing who was in possession of those pagers. I call it like I see it, not how some pentagon parrot was told to tell the masses. israel was born from terrorism. The Brits got tired of zionist's terrorism and that's why they left in the 1940's. But the terrorism started long before the 1940's.

    israel deliberately killed 34 Americans and injured 171 on the USS Liberty, which was far from israel well off the coast of Egypt in international waters.

    Yet our corrupt government still feeds those terrorist pigs. They don't deserve one red cent from US taxpayers. The zionists are the problem, not the solution.
     
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    The acts of war have been going on since 2022. Iran shipped, and I believe still is, drones for Russia to use on Ukrainians. Iran didn't even feel the need to create a narrative on why they are playing such a major role against Ukranians, who didn't do anything to provoke Iran.

    To me, this entire ME blow up has been a planned response from Russia and Iran to weaken the US by drawing us in to conflict in the region to take the military pressure off of them in Ukraine, as well as putting major diplomatic pressure on the US by pushing all Islamic nations' leaders toward Iran's side (and by extension, toward Russia's side on the Ukraine issue, eventually). Even NATO Turkey... They have created a world PR situation in which Islamic nations' populations increasingly view Iran as the hero, and thus their leaders are becoming increasingly politically strained on opposition to Iran...on anything. I believe that the Iranian government has calculated that the military/economic threat it faces is significant, but not existential, and thus worth the growing support of the Islamic world, and solidification of its alliance with Russia by taking on this risk for them.

    I'm surprised that so many people that are zealous in their opposition to Russia for its attack on Ukraine are silent in condemning Iran for not only being Russia's right hand man during the conflict, but using it to accelerate their own aggression agenda in the ME that coincidentally is timed with Putin's military struggles against the US.
     
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    Ok. Well if you were surprised there was a retaliation, then so be it. I think 99% of everyone else knew it was coming. I don't see the point of bickering about it.

    To me it's been going on for over 1000 years.
     
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    Well that's a great Russia Russia Russia talking point/conspiracy theory but all you have to do is understand who has been bombing who for the last...decades.

    I'll give you a hint. It's the people the Brits and Euros wanted out of their lands and thus 'encouraged' them to move to Palestine over a 100 years ago. The same people who's government published a state-sponsored ethnic cleansing plan. The same people destroying centuries old UNESCO World Heritage churches.

    ^^^^^^^ These are the people that can't live peacefully.
     
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    Israel has been bombing terrorists while Iran and Russia have been arming and training them.
     
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    Let's ask an intellect what terrorism is...

     
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    "If Israel doesn't want to be accused of being Nazi, it should stop behaving like Nazis" - Norman Finkelstein.
     
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    He is entitled to his opinion, however misguided it may be.
     
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    So you're trying to tell a Jewish person what a nazi is. iThink he knows since his family suffered at their hands but you're entitled to your misguided opinion.

    Perhaps he's just another "feeble minded Jewish guy" right?
     
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    People of all backgrounds can be misguided.
     
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    Noam Chomsky states Israel has "judeo-nazi" tendancies.

    Another "feeble minded" Jewish guy no doubt, huh.

    Looks like ppl of a certain ethnic group have this trait, according to you
     
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    You're the one who keeps saying that, not I.

    Noam says a lot of questionable things. No one is perfect.
     
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    examples please??

    Einstein as well, feeble minded? He stated Israeli politicians were Nazis.

    That poor misguided soul, Einstein. iAlways knew he was misguided and a fraud.
     
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    Einstein's views were nuanced and sophisticated, based on an understanding of the facts at the time and not consisting of such goofy blanket statements as these.

    Here is some of what Einstein actually said and in what context:

    Einstein was one of the authors of an open letter to the New York Times in 1948[42][43][44] which deeply criticized Menachem Begin's Herut (Freedom) Party for the Deir Yassin massacre attributed to "terrorist bands",[42] and likened Herut to "the Nazi and Fascist parties". He further stated "The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party". Einstein said of the party that "Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism...It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character", while also criticizing Irgun by calling it a "terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization".[42]

    In 1949 Einstein wrote in a letter to The Hebrew University of Jerusalem that this period is "the fulfillment of our dreams", but that he regrets that "we were compelled by the adversities of our situation to assert our rights through force of arms; it was the only way to avert complete annihilation". He also expressed the hope that "the wisdom and moderation the leaders of the new state have shown" will gradually lead to "cooperation and mutual respect" with the Arab people.[45]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein#Zionism
     
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    of questionable Chomsky observations

    Btw, thanks for providing proof of Einstein calling Israeli politicians Nazis and terrorists
     
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    Nope. You're putting no work in here, opting instead of make one silly assertion after another. You can educate yourself.
     

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