Is it me or are liberals now routinely anti Christian and anti Semitic?

Republicans gave capitalism to China and they used it to instantly eliminate all
the poverty on earth!! Do you understand?

 

or tell us why the inquisition was more important than teaching billions the Great Commandment when theretofore the Colliseum Commandment was all people knew? Isn't thinking fun?

 

You mentioned the calendar. That was started in the late 6th century and gained traction after that.

You also mentioned the fall of Rome, which came long after Jesus.

And, I pointed out that the first inquisitions serious enough to have permanent names in history came in the 1100's. But, that certainly doesn't mean Christianias made good neighbors before that!!

 

???? who cares what I mentioned??????????????????

 

Was their philosophy to teach the 10 Commandments or like that of your Roman/Nazi friends to conquer kill and enslave the entire world?

According to historian Thomas Madden:

The Inquisition was not born out of desire to crush diversity or oppress people; it was rather an attempt to stop unjust executions. Yes, you read that correctly. Heresy was a crime against the state.

In the early Middle Ages, people accused of heresy were judged by the local lord, many of whom lacked theological training. Madden claims that "The simple fact is that the medieval Inquisition saved uncounted thousands of innocent (and even not-so-innocent) people who would otherwise have been roasted by secular lords or mob rule" [emphasis in original].[15]

Madden argues that while medieval secular leaders were trying to safeguard their kingdoms, the Church was trying to save souls. The Inquisition provided a means for heretics to escape death and return to the community.[15]



"Practices and procedures of episcopal inquisitions could vary from one diocese to another, depending on the resources available to individual bishops and their relative interest or disinterest. Convinced that Church teaching contained revealed truth, the first recourse of bishops was that of persuasio. Through discourse, debates, and preaching, they sought to present a better explanation of Church teaching. This approach often proved very successful.[5]

The Albigensian Crusade resulted in the defeat of the Cathars militarily. After this, the Inquisition played an important role in finally destroying Catharism during the 13th and much of the 14th centuries.[9] Punishments for Cathars varied greatly. Most frequently, they were made to wear yellow crosses atop their garments as a sign of outward penance. Others undertook obligatory pilgrimages, many for the purpose of fighting against Muslims. Another common punishment, including for returned pilgrims, was visiting a local church naked once each month to be scourged. Cathars who were slow to repent suffered imprisonment and, often, the loss of property. Others who altogether refused to repent were burned.[10]

 

Not to the family of some guy being tortured by the Pope's legions.

Nazi!!! There you go!!!

 

Time did not "begin with Christ". Some monk decided to make a calendar based on the local understanding of when Jesus was born. That was a common technique. Romans based their calendars on various leaders. So did Islam. So did others.

There you go again: Nazi!!!

The inquisitions I stated were ALL Christian. In fact, Christianity was the very root reason that they occurred.

 

False.

Rats - I didn't wait the requisite 11 seconds to post!

 

So you pretend.

A religion that must torture dissenters can hardly claim to be a religion of love.

Plus, claiming all citizens for your religion is bogus considering that dissenters were tortured to death!

 

That was the objective of the Popes, too.

And, there you go with Nazii AND MARX this time!!!

You can't make arguments based on the truth, so you bring in extremist BS and make derogatory comments about me personally. You make totally unsupported and obviously stupid claims about political groups of today when you fail your history lesson.

Liberal. Marx. Nazi. You fail. Over and over again.

 

??? Do we really have to go through the whole Holy Roman Empire thing now, too?

 

OK, now you're going for cheap humor, I guess.

 

sorry to rock your world yet again!

According to historian Thomas Madden:

"The Inquisition was not born out of desire to crush diversity or oppress people; it was rather an attempt to stop unjust executions. Yes, you read that correctly. Heresy was a crime against the state.

In the early Middle Ages, people accused of heresy were judged by the local lord, many of whom lacked theological training. Madden claims that "The simple fact is that the medieval Inquisition saved uncounted thousands of innocent (and even not-so-innocent) people who would otherwise have been roasted by secular lords or mob rule" [emphasis in original].[15]

Madden argues that while medieval secular leaders were trying to safeguard their kingdoms, the Church was trying to save souls. The Inquisition provided a means for heretics to escape death and return to the community.[15]

 

sorry I meant Republican capitalism in China just instantly eliminated 40% of all the poverty on the planet. How is that for caring for the poor???????

 

you said church and state were not connected. Then I taught you that Christianity took over Roman Empire. That indicates a connection. Do you understand??

 

i see but you are afraid to present the most significant argument not based on truth? what do you learn from your fear?

 

Good point!!!

 

please don't lie that all dissenters were tortured to death. I"ve given you the history, the real history not the Marxist history that brainwashed you. Poor thing!

 

if its good why did you point it out?????

 

Going to the church you are required to go to, regardless of your own beliefs, and doing so naked in order to be scourged - once each month!

Now, THAT is love.

How could we possibly get along without that message?

 

The Christian participation was designed to prevent cruelty and save souls.

 

minor stuff affecting .001 of population and often designed to to stop heretical movements and save Christianity. Do you understand?

 

like parental love sometimes it hurts. If Christianity did not fight to exist it would not exist. You have to accept reality. Is that often a problem you face??

 

I've heard that before.

What an outstanding and total crock.

It is true that the pope didn't have ultimate control over the full extent of the Holy Roman Empire. That part is true. However, that doesn't change the fact that torture was the tool carried out broadly and was the accepted tool of the religion.

Anyone can claim that gee, it wasn't the fault of the Pope.

And, we're talking about christianity, not the pope. The pope is just part of it, very obviously.

 

There isn't any "Republican capitalism".

There is American capitalism. And, that has NOTHING to do with religion.

And, China developed its own version of capitalism over a period of years. In fact, one could point out that they aren't totally there even today.