Is it possible to have a civil discussion about racists supporting Trump?

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by Natty Bumpo, May 1, 2016.

  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that the support of unabashedly racist groups, whether neo-nazis, the White supremacist American Freedom Party, or the Keystone United group enthusiastically advocating and demonstrating for Trump is going to enhance his dismal elective prospects, but sweeping such inconvenient truths under the table is not going to help either.

    In what promises to be a very negative campaign between to candidates with high unfavorability numbers,it's bound to be exploited later, and better to be dealt with now.

    Will the show business celebrity courageously take on this noxious element and explain how he does not intend to further their racist agenda? Will he explain to them that they had derived false hopes from his campaign rhetoric?

    In his effort to legitimize his candidacy, it could work to his advantage.


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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Seems very lame to blame a candidate for those who support that candidate. And that is true on both sides. It is valid and worthwhile to discuss a candidates stands on issues but no candidate is really tesponsible for those who chose to support them.

    The old saying about guilt by association applies.
     
  3. little voice

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    How am I talking out of both sides of my mouth

    I am saying I do not know if the majority of Donald trump supporters are racists

    But I don't know the majority of the white separatistmovement support Donald trump

    And I know to a couple that are not white supremacists that of voting for Donald trump

    You really need to learn how to understand what you read

    The thread is not about democrats or Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders or anybody else

    Accept Donald trumps supporters

    Come back when you can understand what you read
     
  4. little voice

    little voice New Member

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    The problem is most of them seem not understand what they're reading
    They respond as if the post is aabout everybody but donald trump supporters
     
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    To you perhaps. To me it is about the support and votes from extremist organizations the candidates from both parties get. And it's difficult to deny (as you haven't even attempted to) that the Democratic candidates enjoy the support of all sorts of violent, radical leftist, marxist, racist, islamic fundamentalist organizations. It's also impossible to deny that these left-wing extremists of all stripes riot, attack innocent people, destroy property, disrupt peaceful rallies and deprive americans of free speech with the tacit approval of their democratic party bosses, their sponsors (like Soros) and the candidates themselves.
     
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    Please show in the opening post where it shows the OP is not about trump supporters
    But all other things you list
     
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    As I told you many times, in the context of this thread I consider the wide support the Democratic candidates get from violent anti-american extremist organizations like La Raza, CAIR, ANSWER, BLM, Black Panthers and marxist, anarchist violent mobs to be very relevant to this thread. I don't care if you disagree, sorry What's good for the goose is good for the gender.
     
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    Who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) ? The thread is about attempting to characterize Trump as being the only major candidate who has some lame-brain racists supporting him, while ignoring that the overwhelming majority of racists in this country vote Democrat, and currently support Hillary..

    Who give a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) if you like it or not ?
     
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    Is it possible to have a conversation on how this is nonsense?
     
  10. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Their denial and avoidance is futile. The enthusiasm for him by such repugnant elements will be made known to the American electorate.

    It is in their interest to honestly confront it now.
     
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    I think you need to confront the fact that wall street Hillary's a racist and Trump will be the next president. but then again it will not matter to you personally because your not from the U.S., probably just working for the democrats posting smears for food or something.
     
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    They don't seem to realize that contentious republican primaries during which Hillary managed to sneak under the radar are over. They are so used to the republican infighting that they truly believe they can avoid mentioning her name and keep lying about Trump all the way till November.

    Too bad the focus is quickly shifting from Rubio and Cruz and Kasich to her. Her ties to Oil, Insurance, Pharma industries, her failures and disasters, her personality, her legalized bribes from Wall Street, the support she gets from anti-american radical organizations of all stripes, marxists, islamists, black/hispanic racists - it's all fair game and it is about to be blown wide open. Time to take her down. America will be better off without this crooked archaism.
     
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    Bwahahahahahaha ..... anti-Trump pot meet anti-Hillary kettle !!! Hillary, and her fans, are not used to the bright lights that are about to shine on the Cockroach Queen !!

    Gonna be a hoot of an election season !!!!
     
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    Just like the entire black supremacist movement is totally in support of Hillary Clinton?
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    If you are unable to deal with Trump's support and endorsements by racist organizations, you can pretend they don't exist, I suppose.
     
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    LOL ... OP had other thread deleted and pathetically tries again.
     
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    Pot .... kettle.

    You made it too easy.
     
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    It is MORE than obvious what this OP is trying to do. He has made MANY similar posts/threads over the past few months.

    He is trying to DEFAME a political candidate because certain undesirable groups have common interests with the candidate.

    Well guess what ? I have the similar interests as well and so do many of the posters on this thread and the others that
    have spoken up about the ridiculous claims of Natty Bumpo concerning Donald Trump and Nazis and KKK, etc.
    Donald Trump has denounced these groups publicly. That should be the end of it.

    I HAVE HAD IT WITH THIS POSTER. I AM GOING TO WRITE THE MODERATORS OF THIS FORUM ABOUT THIS
    POSTER'S ACTIVITY AND RECOMMEND THEY TAKE ACTION. THIS POSTER HAS BEEN ENCOURAGED IN EVERY
    SIMILAR THREAD TO STOP THIS ACTION AS IT IS OBVIOUS AS TO WHAT HE IS TRYING TO DO. HE CONTINUES.
    I ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO LIKEWISE.


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  20. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    When you cannot offer anything intelligent, it should be easy.

    Do you believe that Trump's support and endorsements by neo-nazis, skinheads, and other white supremacists shoud not be discussed?

    Rabid Trumpies seem seem to become very upset if it is mentioned, and contrive feeble diversions in their futile attempts to avoid it.
     
  21. Sundance

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    Just admit you're scared as hell of Trump, because he's going to build a huge wall to keep your fellow countrymen from illegally sneaking into our country because their country is a third world sh--hole.

    And, you're also mad because the "Trump is racist" thing has been done to death by the left in desperation, it's never once been proven, and only creeps care about it anymore :)


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    Absolutely.
     
  23. Merwen

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    I'm not. I think everyone has a right to reasonable representation, and many of those people actually have reasonable concerns buried beneath their outward manifestations of them.
     
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    So what exactly should one do? Tell them not to vote or to vote for Hillary instead?
     
  25. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I was afraid for a while that the GOP bosses and fat cats might succeed in stealing the nomination from the television celebrity, but he's a virtual shoe-in, so we all can breathe a sigh of relief.

    This is going to be fun!

    Trumpies will have an even harder time wallowing in denial or desperately trying to divert attention from his enthusiastic support by neo-nazis, skinheads, and other white supremacists.

    It's going to be very ugly - Clinton tied to her Wall Street sleazeballs and Trump to his racist goons.
     

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