Is it possible to have a civil discussion about racists supporting Trump?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Let's hope these racist groups are given ample media attention to express their reasons for supporting Trump after he is nominated.
     
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    LOL! Really?
     
  3. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    The desideratum is an educated electorate, not to conceal the nature of the support for either candidate.

    Voters have a right to be informed concerning both Clinton's Wall Street and Trump's racist backers.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    A candidate is not responsible for who supports them. The candidate is however responsible for their positions and statements that may or may not have led to that support.

    Much more useful to concentate on the issues rather than the substitute name calling evidenced by attempting to tie the candidates to certain groups of supporters.
     
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    Map4 Well-Known Member

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    Okay. So which do you think would do more harm to the country. A racist backing Trump or Wall Street backing Hillary?
    I would say, as with most things in politics, follow the money.
    Which, by the lefts own logic, leaves out the uneducated backwoods racist hicks backing Trump.
     
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    are you implying that there are no racists supporting Hillary?
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    True, nevertheless, asking why a candidate attracts the support that he does is a reasonable question, and suppressing public awareness of such support does not serve the nation.
     
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    For as long as human will see, the racism will exist! If slaves are a tolerable show, black gorillas arent a city event, but they must left alone and free from crazy people, if the white man cannot help them!
     
  9. Natty Bumpo

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    I don't know, but I am confident that the American people being acquainted with the nature of support in both cases is essential to their intelligently making that determination.
     
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    Your optimism that American's will intelligently vote on the issues is heartwarming.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because the relevant metric is not so much who is supporting Trump, but rather, who Trump is embracing. All kinds of people support every candidate, and the candidates have no control over that.

    If you could pull away the veil of anonymity, I'm 100% sure there are pedophiles who support Hillary, and rapists who support Sanders. But these truths alone have absolutely no bearing on my opinion of Hillary or Sanders. Only if Hillary were to come out in support of pedophilia, would it affect my opinion.

    Likewise, if Trump went down to the KKK meeting and shook the hand of the grand wizard thanking him for the support, then that would be relevant. If Trump took a large campaign donation from the KKK, that would be relevant.

    That there is nothing other than internet postings to indicate any sort of actual relationship, makes this a total non issue for me.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I don't see any need to malign Americans even when I disagree with the majority, and I deem knowledge preferable to ignorance.
     
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    Taking note of who is supporting a candidate and the reasons that they are supporting him should not be a taboo. It can be quite revelatory.

    When overtly racist organizations publicly endorse a candidate, asking "Why?" is an appropriate question.

    Awareness is desirable regardless of the candidate and regardless of the supportive organizations' specific agenda.
     
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    You are wrong
    The head of the black Muslims they said the likes Donald trump
    The head of the new black panther party would like to kill Hillary Clinton
    And BLM has tried on a number of occasions to disrupt Hillary Clinton rallies
    I'm sure you not making up lies
    I believe you're just being misled by right wing propaganda
    Do a little research before you post
     
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    Wall Street isn't a person and doesn't vote. And white racists are, in general, not single issue voters. In other words, one may be a racist in freedom with the full compliment of constitutional rights. But that makes neither freedom nor the constitution racist. Consequently, a racist can support a candidate on multiple legitimate levels or issues, lending nothing more to that candidate than a vote of confidence that he or she will uphold the constitution and freedom. On the other hand, communism and socialism are enemies to freedom. And you will find them in support of every Democrat, past, present and future. So why beholdest thou the mote in thy brothers eye, when a beam is in thine own. Furthermore, there is nothing racist about Trumps platform or any of his positions on his website. Carry on.
     
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    Mr. Bumpo -

    You have a racist who Also wants reform on immigration and foreign trade that supports a Candidate that is not racist, but who supports immigration and foreign trade reform. This Candidate publically disavows this supporter.

    So You say we should question and condemn this Non-Racist candidate because of the free expression of this bigot ?

    I think it is YOU Natty Bumpo that is the egregious offender. You stand as a character assassin in an open forum, using gaps in the rules to continue your behavior that has been struck down twice before on other similar threads. I condemn your trickery and distortion and the willful continuance of despicable behavior towards Donald Trump.

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  17. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Al the more reason to be familiar with the members of the neo-nazi, skinhead, and other white supremacist organizations supporting and endorse Trump. It could be that they are thrilled by his calling Dubya Bush a "Liar!", defended Planned Parenthood's importance for women's health, and instructed the prissybiddies to get over their potty fixation. Self-proclaimed "neo-nazis" enthused about Trump's candidacy may just be delighted with Trump® Steaks, Trump® Vodka, Trump® Wine, avid devotees of Trump's "The Apprentice", high fliers on Trump® Air, or habitual fun seekers at Trump® Casinos.

    It's essential that we take a closer look.

    Such undocumented blanket claims demand that we also publicize and scrutinize communist and socialist organizations endorsing any presidential candidates as well.
     
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    most of them are undoubtedly worried about jobs.
     
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    I suppose if David Duke supported a Trump plan to repeal affirmative action that would make such a Trump plan evil?
    What about the plan to eliminate white's by mass third world immigration and forced integration? If Duke supported some future plan of Trump's to end third world immigration would that make it evil?
    www.whiterabbitradio.net
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    real question is are you ready to deal with wall street Hillary's closet racism, oop's I forgot it's not all that secret, pucker up for daddy KKK, this guy below was a ex leader.
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    Well if you deem knowledge preferable to ignorance then you will have a difficult time not maligning the American voter. Or perhaps " If ignorance is bliss then tis folly to be wise" is your guiding principle in appraising the American voter.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Trump boasts that he is a job creator, and when he takes command of the federal workforce, even Mitch McConnell will have a full-time job!

    ... Senators are putting in three-day workweeks and getting more paid vacation days in one year than many Americans might get in 10. Currently, the upper chamber of Congress is on pace to be in session for all of 124 days in 2016, its lightest schedule since 1956"
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Would you? Well, you have a right to your opinion.

    Eradicating white folks is not a platform that would enhance electability, and whichever candidates are embracing it are making a mistake, imho.
     
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    Can you document Trumps racism?
     
  25. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps, if you expose your notion to the neo-nazis, skinheads, and white supremacists now endorsing and supporting Trump, they will all suddenly transfer allegiance, as will all the minority Americans and progressives now supporting her.

    Good luck with that.
     

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