Is Roe v. Wade at Risk???

The Supreme Court's Monday decision means they're likely to overturn Roe v. Wade, writes Robin Marty

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...=857693951420692326&utm_medium=Email Sailthru

"One of the major precepts of Roe v. Wade is that a state cannot ban abortion before fetal viability. A case heading to the Supreme Court lunges right at the heart of that issue, writes author and activist Robin Marty. The court’s willingness to hear the case signals that it may be ready to overturn the decision that made most abortions legal in the U.S. today, Marty writes."

 

Maybe but I doubt it.

If anything abortion gets repubs to the polls and that is probably more important to republicans then actually stopping abortions.

 

The only way that this case does not result in the overturning of Roe vs Wade is that it would be an undue burden for women to track every period for 15 weeks.

 

Exactly. Both parties benefit politically from having it teetering on the edge constantly.

 

them red states gonna endup a sausage-fest.

 

It's possible, although I don't think it's what Republicans really want. It has been their goose which lies golden eggs politically speaking, because that, and gay marriage, has been GOPs two best arguments to keep evangelicals voting for them. Gay marriage is a settled issue, and if abortion it taken off the table, some evangelicals might start voting for Dems again, as they did before Roe/Wade became a political wedge issue.

Why would they go to the polls, if the Supreme Court decides the issue on their behalf? It HAS BEEN an issue to draw evangelicals to the polls to vote GOP, but after this decision, voting might become less meaningful. There are LOTS of people who say abortion is the only issue why they vote Republican.

 

That was my point. I think you misread my post.

 

Yes, it seems so. I took it to mean that an overturn would draw Republicans to the polls, but looks like you are saying that abortion (as it stands today) draws them to the poll, and I agree with that.

This is the situation. Only 13% overall, and 31% of Republicans want it overturned, but there are many who think it can be kept in place with more restrictions.

 

It's doubtful that anything major will happen with it. It's a hot commodity in politics.

P.S. I find it bizarre that people want to tell women what they can and can't do with their bodies but some of them lose their minds when asked to wear a mask.

 

Even HONEST pro-choice liberals say that Roe v Wade was a JOKE legal ruling.

 

Maybe they say that because the ruling was made by conservative SC, just like legalization of gay marriage.

Can you share the names of some people who say that?

 

Why would that matter? Are liberals THAT insane that they disagree with decisions simply because conservatives made the decisions happen? You think that these anti-Roe v Wade, pro abortion liberals would have been happy if the exact same decision was made by a liberal SC?

From second paragraph:
https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/20...v-wade-myths-kavanaugh-abortion-supreme-court

 

"Conservative SC?" Says who? Given that they made that INSANE decision known as 'Roe v Wade, they were NOT conservatives! Yet, you call them conservatives? Why? Simply because they were appointed by a Republican President? Don't make me laugh. Bush gave us NON-conservative, John Roberts, and now he leads the damn court!

 

I dont know. I speculated since I had no clue what you were talking about. Now you revealed that the "liberals" you were talking about were some columnists from a newspaper. They are entitled to their opinion

They were conservative.

 

I can understand restrictions. I still think that women should be able to make their own choices and be in control, at least to some degree, of decisions about their own body, and have safe options.

 

You need to look at it from the opposite side also.

Those that say others cannot tell them what to do with their bodies, but insist people wear masks and inject experimental drugs into their bodies.

No one has the right to tell other people what to do with their bodies. It either applies across the board, or not at all. Period.

 

How was the Burger Court "conservative"? Just because several members were appointed by Republican presidents doesn't make the court "conservative".

Remember that the GOP was liberal on many social issues back then anyway.

 

The argument for masks is to protect others from you, so its not quite the same argument.

Personally I am pro-life, but in the end the issue is whether or not is should be a personal choice or a choice the government will make.

Ah, the good old "no true Scotsman" fallacy. Seven of the justices were conservative, so the "they were not true conservatives" argument rings a bit.......dishonest.

Either way, their ruling was based on their understanding of the Constitution, not on a future stance of the Republican party. Or who knows, maybe they ruled that way to give the GOP a massive political weapon. You think that's what it was?

 

And why would you classify the Burger Court as "conservative"?

 

Because of their rulings, and their reputation as "conservative constructionist" court.

There is something about Republicans and their inability to own anything they do or say. They always try to either shift the blame on others, or distance themselves from their fellow Republicans with the "No True Scotsman" arguments. They need to learn personal accountability, which (ironically) they preach, but can't utilize in their own behavior.

I am not looking for your agreement on the matter. You are more than welcome to believe they were all raving liberals.

 

People don't have the right to transmit disease from their bodies to other people. If you don't want to wear a mask and get vaccinated don't go out and possibly infect me or my family

 

Correct. Now, how do we get everybody else to mind their own business?

 

Wikipedia entry on the Burger Court says otherwise.

 

For example?

 

I don't know of any Republican who has advocated that. Pregnancies due to rape are very rare anyway.