Is the Illuminati self defeating?

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  1. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    So lets assume there is an elite group of people controlling world governments and media.

    If these said people control the government and media, therefore controlling the flow of information, then wouldn't all information regarding the possible nature of the Illuminati essentially be corrupt and filtered? Therefore useless?

    Would the vary nature of the Illuminati therefore be a self-defeating premise for its own conspiracy theory?
     
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    I believe they know they cannot filter out all of the information and to filter out to much would cause more suspicion the point you just made keeps people from believing therefore allowing some information is useful.
     
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    First and foremost you need to know who the illuminated are.They are the descendants of those that know the truth about mankind's origins and the ones who invented religions to enslave your tiny brains.It worked like a champ.
     
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    Who, by the very definition of the conspiracy theory proponents, control the media.
     
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    So the illuminati is a group of people who dont want to be known or attract attention but they leak information to keep people guessing to see if they are real or they are not.

    So this is kind of like the Metal Gear solid series with the "La li lu le lo" who are the "people" behind the scenes controlling everything?
     
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    The "Illuminati" as we hear it today is nothing more than a phantom, a boogey-man for the workers of Fear Inc., to scare the masses into their mindset. It's called scapegoating.
     
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    I was recently introduced to this video from Lew Rockwell site, I was rather impressed with it actually. Its based on this book, which also was provided in a pdf download which has the full list of the Skull & Bones membership. It also talked about the Illuminati

    Its a 4 part video series but I thought it was very good. It was just uploaded to the AJ channel which I cant stand personally, but if it wasnt on the Lew Rockwell site I never would have found it.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h58oYvHPztQ"]Charlotte Iserbyt: Skull & Bones, The Order at Yale Revealed 1/4 - YouTube[/ame]


    http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2006/10/119639.pdf

    Douglas Reed also talks about the Illuminati in his book "The Controversy of Zion" another great read. Highly recommend. Here is a summary, with an online version.
    http://knud.eriksen.adr.dk/summary.htm
     
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    Oh, somebody took an extra dose of his crazy pills.
     
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    the red pill will tke you out of the matrix. And, no, ain't a'feared ah nothing. . . . it's a "widow's son" deal, right!?
     
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    The ride down the rabbit hole is fun...
     
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    The Illuminati if real would most likely have at least one man or woman in every government and religion feeding everybody lies or the truth. Like one of the cardinals in the Vatican could be part of the Illuminati and could feed lies or the truth to the pope and such. A senator could be an Illuminati who takes directions from the heads of the Illuminati and then makes sure what they say happens in the Senate and then hopefully in Congress. But I do think by the time the information is given to the Illuminati or the people it would somewhat be wrong from the original information that was supposed to be given.
     
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    http://www.earthstation1.com/EsotericaFiles/Pics/Masonic/The_Work_of_the_Freemasons_jk.jpg
     
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    Yes....... Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan is taking the people who think that they are the greatest economic predators and turning them into modern "Teacher Subjects" in a massive modern application of the Milgram Experiment.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-and-the-media.331262/page-4#post-1072147565


    and here....




    Illuminati totally controls orgainzed religion, politics, and the media


     
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    You really need to think deeply about this webpage to catch onto what I mean by this......

    https://www.near-death.com/religion/christianity/howard-storm.html#a03

    Former Skeptic Howard Storm's videos on all of this will help you to catch onto what is really happening a lot faster.



     
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    A message by the truly gifted Kim Clement indicates that Mr. Bill Gates will catch onto this faster than just about any other Malthusian student prodigy.....

    https://www.facebook.com/330time/videos/kim-clement-prophecy-about-bill-gates/338609397190475/






    Kim Clement Prophecy about Bill Gates

     
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    Yes... I think that you are onto something....... because IF... my theory has some validity that former Covering Cherub Halel who
    is known to Christians as Lucifer / Satan is telling many
    high level members of the Illuminati to SAY THAT THEY ARE ATHEISTS.... even though they
    are actually Theistic Satanists like Evangelis John Ramirez while he was a Warlock....... THEN........

    a massive practical joke is actually being played on all eight thousand five hundred of the wealthiest of the wealthy plus their
    ten million or so highest ranking economists, lawyers, C.E.O's, news anchors, Hollywood actors and famous music stars........




    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...or-thirty-third-level.590334/#post-1072838839





    Yes.. that is a valid point as well!



    I have to admit that this is an interesting theory!
     
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    The eight thousand five hundred wealthiest people on earth plus their ten million or so most highly reimbursed leaders in business, BigPharma, BigMedia, BigBanking, Hollywood, and in BigGovernment.
     
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    Or like an off the scale high IQ serial killer taunting the police and FBI with clues and riddles and hints!




    2010 Australian x factor winner Altiyan Childs exposes freemasonry – Dr Charlie Ward
     
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    Is the Illuminati self defeating?
    Yes, they are. Why? Because they use to be patient and very clandestine in their operations. Moving and changing things to adjust for their agendas. Now, they are like a fat kid in a cookie shop. Blaaze and brazen, in your face lack of subtlety. Getting ahead of themselves thinking they have won. When in fact they are shooting themselves in the foot. They used to work from the shadows, now they're not. Too much too soon. Just like a pre-pubescent teen discovering his willie for the first time, it'll get messy because they've lost their self-control.
     
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    Absolutely......
    The people who could be termed "Illuminati" are not stupid people......
    they are angry and bitter at their Creator..... and they are generally predatory in their thinking......

    ... but as more and more of the Holy Spirit is poured out there will be more and more repentances as radical as that of the Apostle Paul.... [or of General Abner in the time of King David]!


    COULD SATAN BE PLAYING A JOKE ON BILL GATES AND ALL SATANISTS AND LEADERS IN THE OCCULT?

    Share this message around and Satan's kingdom will be divided..... and it will FALL!!!!! QUICKLY!

    The key to understanding this idea is to look at the research by Stanley Milgram Ph. D. that he did on obedience to authority figures during the time of the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials. In a way... Bill Gates has been playing the role of the AUTHORITY FIGURE in a massive Milgram style experiment!!!!!!! But in another way... Bill Gates and all of the political leaders who he bought and paid for.... are also LIKE THE TEACHER SUBJECTS IN THE MILGRAM RESEARCH!!!!!!

    ..... Satan has millions of years of memories of being with The Ancient of Days the Father... with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus as The Word - Logos and with the Holy Spirit..... so Satan does not think like a mere human who has fifty or sixty or seventy years worth of memories!!!

    Near death experiencer Dr. Richard Eby on near-death .com :
    ... Mary K. Baxter was shown that Satan indeed is playing a dark and terrible joke on his own followers and servants!!!!!

    ....
    .... NOW THAT PROPHECY FROM PROPHET KIM CLEMENT ABOUT PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP GETTING TWO TERMS.... AND ON BILL GATES REPENTING AND OPENING FINANCIAL GATES FOR THE BRIDE OF MESSIAH THE CHURCH..... can make more sense......
    ... This idea will cause Satan's kingdom to be DIVIDED.... and to fall!!!!!!

     
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    Satan is the master deceiver. It uses everyone for its own gain. The puppets that are doing its bidding will be cast aside and be disposed of just like everybody else.
     
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    True... but many of them will repent and from the point of view of a Jewish thinker might remind them of General Abner.......

    ... and from the point of view of a Christian Thinker... they may become like the Apostle Paul who repented of persecuting the Messianic Jews who embraced Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus as Messiah the Passover Lamb... and Moshiach ben David.......

    I am convinced that Bill Gates is one of the most dangerous and deceived people on earth but..... I take the prediction of him repenting very, very, very seriously!!!!!


    The prediction of Bill Gates repenting goes all the way back to 2007...and is by the same guy who at that time predicted that Donald J. Trump would become President of the USA... and be given a second term as well............
    ....
     
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    Indeed. Trump WAS a visitor to Epstein Island on more than one occasion. He is one example that had the puppet strings cut off. I think Melania had something to do with it.
     
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    Donald Trump met Epstein at various parties........ he travelled on jets with Epstein..... but I do not believe that he went to Epstein Island...... and if he did then that could have been the catalyst that got him going on the mission to arrest the corrupt members of the CIA and FBI who not only assist in the drug trade to America... but who are also involved in child trafficking...... I believe that the clean up of The Washington Swamp.... and Hollywood..... and the Music Industry..... not only in America but in many nations is proceeding according to some brilliant plans............

    I believe that all of the Mark Taylor predictions will come to pass... but our lack of faith has delayed them from being on the time line that our Creator actually wanted them to be on....... Just as the lack of faith on the part of the people of Nazareth stopped Jesus from healing many people in that town..... so also our decisions and our selfishness and our cowardice delay what our Creator wants to happen. Even Elijah the prophet ran away from Queen Jezebel's armies to Mt. Horeb... and the question by God....... "What doest thou here Elijah?" implies that God had much better plans for Elijah than that he run away to Mt. Horeb.... II Kings chapter one hint at what God's plans for Elijah had included......
    .....


    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2 Kings 1&version=NIV

    .....

    Mark Taylor....

     
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