Is this offensive to feminism?

"A new Globe Theatre production exploring the life of Joan of Arc will see the legendary French heroine made into a non-binary character."

I identify as male, so clearly I can't say. So I ask you, empowered women, is there anything wrong with de-feminizing Joan of Arc in the interest of "becoming an inclusive and diverse organisation” willing to make “necessary change”?

Is this inclusive? Is this change necessary?

I, of course, have my opinion: this is bullshit. Joan of Arc was great in part because she was a woman.

(no, this is not an argument to shut down or ban the play, its my argument to detest and ridicule it)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...kespeare-french-english-history-b2143630.html

 

I am not an 'empowered woman' but before we all go down this obvious path you are leading us down, maybe you are seeing too much politics in all this and not enough art in it. Somebody decided to give this character and story a new creative twist. Being as I have not read the script, or seen the production, I can't tell you whether it will improve either. I would prefer to watch the show and then judge the decisions behind it.

 

Maybe they wanted to highlight her accomplishments and her life without the emphasis being on her gender...ya know, treat her like a person

 

Her accomplishments are far more amazing because of the oppression against her gender that she made those accomplishments in spite of. This play seems to be an attempt to discount or even subvert that aspect. Unless this can be demonstrated to be part of a different trend, such as amongst other plays depicting Napolean or De Gaul as 'nonbinary'...

 

It's an attempt to erase the female gender. The trans community seems obsessed with that.

Women are unique. They are different then men thru their DNA, and physiology. They are one of the building blocks of humanity...men being the other.

The tran community seems motivated to erase women. Women are sure being targeted by them.

 

Actually...now that I think about it....feminists target men and emasculate them to the best of their ability. Trans activists work to erase women. Maybe they are working together in a sick sort of way.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Maybe they wanted to highlight her accomplishments and her life without the emphasis being on her gender...ya know, treat her like a person

Making it all about her gender is sexist...and these people want to emphasize what she did...without saying every two seconds OH LOOK WHAT A MERE WOMAN DID >>>AREN'T WE ALL SURPRISED!!

 

It wasn't 'surprising' because of her gender... it was 'surprising' because of the way her gender was treated in her time. Surely you understand the difference...

Her story should be in part meant to demonstrate what women are capable of, not that she was an exception. Making her 'nonbinary' (aka, not a woman) removes that.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Maybe they wanted to highlight her accomplishments and her life without the emphasis being on her gender...ya know, treat her like a person


Making it all about her gender is sexist...and these people want to emphasize what she did...without saying every two seconds OH LOOK WHAT A MERE WOMAN DID >>>AREN'T WE ALL SURPRISED!!

She was an exceptional PERSON... to say she was exceptional because she was a women denigrates what she did.

 

I'm neither pro or con feminism but I still ignore references to Joan of Arc. Why waste your time with it?

 

I'd define it as an addition rather than a change. No previous depiction of Joan of Arc will be altered by this play being put on and no future depiction will be required to follow suit. I don't see it any different to versions of Shakespeare plays set in the modern day (or on Forbidden Planets ) and things like The Magnificent Seven being essentially a western remake of Seven Samurai.

 

The only one saying that is you. Its your strawman...

 

I'm on a dating site. sometimes, when a woman says that they're liberal, I'll intentionally just to mess with them, ask them, if they're a trans.

The funniest part, is that they get offended and angry by this.

But wait!!!? if they support trans people, then why would they get offended by, some one simply asking them, if they are trans?

rolling on the floor, lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's because most women, don't want to be seen as a man, and yet democrat politicians are pushing this trans crap upon America, just like they pushed Abortion upon us. Your Constitutional rights, and opinions don't matter to them. they just do what they want anyways, and tell you what you should want!

 

It will be 'okay', when it's okay for cannonical and historically white figures now being played by black actors, is reversed to have historically black figures played by white actors.

When do you suppose that might be?

 

Sure sure .. nothing to do with the raging misogyny of the erasure of the female.

 

EXACTLY (my bold).

And they won't make any historical male figures 'non binary'. You and I both know why.

 

Not just the Trans community ... it's also their many female allies. THE most regressive women on planet earth at this point.

 

I don't think so. Many bonafide feminists have no interest in changing men .. they simply want empowered women.

 

No, it highlights just HOW exceptional she had to be, given the oppression of women at that time.

 

As a feminist no offence taken. A little play will not change history and it may be entertaining. She was ultimately burned for her insistence on cross dressing after all, a capital offense.
How about a play about a gay Jesus? That would be fun too.

 

Are you a trans troller?

 

Non binary is an imaginary identity dreamed up a few years ago. Since non binary is nothing the script will simply have to say that she is and I don't see much point in that as pretending you are a magical dragon wing really change anything.

 

Meh. I’m not offended. It appears it’s a rainbow colored play. Ok. Another variation. Some historic figures get reimagined all sorts of ways.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/01/theater/joan-of-arc-nonbinary-globe.html

Let’s remember she was not a woman; she was a girl. She was burned to death at 19 by religious fanatics. Her crime was crossdressing.

 

Voila!!! Your agenda arrives. Enjoy it; embrace it; adore it.