It Always Starts with the Jews.

Perhaps you should apologise for saying iHave hatred. It was is a totally unfounded and malicious personal attack.

 

The Palestinians are actually the descendants of Jews who were forcibly converted to Islam in the 8th century. So Jews despise them because they repudiated Judaism rather than be killed, and Muslims despise them because they are Jewish fake Muslims (of course, effectively all Muslims are descended from people converted to -- and kept in -- Islam by force, and are thus also fake Muslims).

 

I doubt that as it couldn't be more obvious. Reread my post.

 

"Colonists and settlers"

'Students scream that Israelis are "settlers" and "colonists" and sometimes yell at Jewish students to "go back to Poland."'

'But the Jewish presence in present-day Israel is deeply rooted in ancient tradition. Dating back at least three millennia, the concept of "Israel" as a distinct Jewish state, situated roughly in its current location, is ingrained in history.'

'By contrast, the much later Arab invasions of the Byzantine-controlled Levant and their arrival in Palestine occurred about 1,800 years after the establishment of a Jewish Israel.'

" Two-state solution"

'When student protestors scream "From the river to the sea," that is not advocacy for a two-state solution.'

'It is a call to eliminate the state of Israel -- lying in between the Jordan River and Mediterranean Sea -- and its 10 million Jewish and Arab citizens. The Hamas charter is a one-state/no-Israel agenda, which we saw attempted on October 7.'

"Occupied Gaza",

'Gaza was autonomous. The Israeli border is closed, but so is the Egyptian border. There have not been any Jews in Gaza for nearly two decades.'

'So on October 7, Gaza was not occupied by Israel. It was under the control of Hamas, designated by the U.S. government as a terrorist organization.'

'After being elected to power in 2006, Hamas canceled all subsequent elections and ruled as a dictatorship. Gaza forbids Jews from entering Gaza and has driven out most Christians. Israel hosts two million Arabs, both as Israeli citizens and residents.'

Injecting some truth into the discussion.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/05/10/try_a_little_honesty_about_israel_150922.html

Americans support Israel not Hamas

 

there was no "Jewish presence" in Israel until fairly recently. There is no mention of the word Jewish at all in the bible.

In fact, there is no J in the Hebrew language!

They were called Israelites, not Jewish

 

I'm not familiar with Kim Iverson but I am quite familiar with the degree to which Israeli lobbies control US Government's politicians and US Government policy making.

For example, Israeli lobbies have managed to extract $ Trillions from Americans (1) in addition to "forgiven loans", "joint" projects, misc. "gifts" and whatever they steal from us and sell to the Chinese.(2)

Even though Israel is prohibited from receiving any US aid because of its refusal to sign the NPT, (3) Israel's lobbies were able to compel US Congress to break its own laws.

Another example of the Israeli lobbies manipulate and control a gullible American public is the ease in which they duped Americans into destroying Israel's enemy, Iraq (4), (5) with an obscene amount of US resources and the sacrifice of countless young American G.I.s in order to preserve Israel's regional hegemony.

Re:

I'm afraid that because of the influence of the innumerable Israeli lobbies, the work of parasitic "Israel Firsters" and Zionist Quislings has been made much easier.

“Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.” - Benjamin Netanyahu

https://www.quotemaster.org/q8da87be6957d927735bc145596436a2e


Thanks and keep up the good work.




(1). "The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion"
https://www.wrmea.org/003-june/the-...israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html

By Thomas R. Stauffer

EXCERPT "Similarly, aid to Israel—and thus the regional total—also is understated, since much is outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,000 American jobs each year."CONTINUED



(2). "How Israel Has Betrayed America"
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/06/06/how-israel-has-betrayed-america/

EXCERPT "A recent report by Newsweek magazine that Israel has spied on the United States at “an alarming level” and has done so “more than any other ally does” raises a very serious issue concerning how much Israel has betrayed America, which is something that the American mainstream media have time and again refused to debate in public." CONTINUED



(3). "Lawsuit Claims Aid to Nuclear Israel Illegal Under Symington Glenn Amendments"
https://www.corporatecrimereporter....ael-illegal-under-symington-glenn-amendments/

EXCERPT "A lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, D.C. claims that United States aid to Israel is illegal under a law passed in the 1970s that prohibits aid to nuclear powers that don’t sign the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty (NPT)." CONTINUED


(4). “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”

AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003


(5). "Top Pentagon adviser says ‘Israeli lobby’ funds officials who want war"

"Douglas Macgregor blamed pro-Israel policy for driving the United States into the Iraq conflict after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks,"

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/anti...eli-lobby-funds-officials-who-want-war-649228

EXCERPT "Douglas Macgregor, a top adviser to President Donald Trump’s new acting defense secretary, routinely blames “the Israeli lobby” and “neocons” for pushing the United States into wars.

CNN’s KFile uncovered interviews in which Macgregor, a decorated combat veteran who appears frequently on Fox News and other conservative media, says “pro-Israel” donors and the pro-Israel lobby are behind efforts to drive the United States into war." CONTINUED

 

You've only made two things obvious so far:

1. You think that Jewish / Israeli lives are more valuable than non Jewish lives.

2. Since you can't refute anything in the Post I wrote earlier, you need to evade substantive debate by whining about anti Semitism.

 

Fake News. I agree with the overwhelming number of Americans that support Israel




You shouldn't have swallowed UN fake news on casualties.

'Oops: UN Seemingly Halves Estimate of Gazan Women, Children Killed'

We told you that they have been lying about this, the entire time.

At some point they were going to report that they have all been killed with it's obvious that millions still live, so they quietly cut the number in half, which probably still a lie in Hamas' favor. These bastards always lie in favor of the terrorists position.

'The United Nations seemingly halved the estimated number of women and children killed in Gaza, according to UN data published on May 6 and 8.'

'On May 6, the UN published data showing that 34,735 people had reportedly been killed in Gaza, including over 9,500 women and over 14,500 children.'

'On May 8, the UN published data showing 34,844 people had reportedly been killed, including 4,959 women and 7,797 children.'

So a far higher number of the dead have been fighting age males that these lying sonofabitch have been reporting.

Not shocked. And neither is anyone else.

https://hotair.com/headlines/2024/0...imate-of-gazan-women-children-killed-n3788222

Even the folks pushing the false stats to smear Israel knew that that figures were garbage.

 

Your undated poll means nothing today.

As of March:

"Majority in U.S. Now Disapprove of Israeli Action in Gaza"
"Approval has dropped from 50% to 36% since November"
https://news.gallup.com/poll/642695/majority-disapprove-israeli-action-gaza.aspx


Now that it's halfway through May, even more loyal Americans oppose Netanyahu's genocide.

As far as generating garbage, nobody does a better job than Israel's global Hasbara network:


"A list of Israeli lies, propaganda and genocidal intent"
https://hebhjamal.substack.com/p/a-list-of-israeli-lies-propaganda

EXCERPT

"The Propaganda:

1. Israel’s military and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office claimed that Hamas fighters beheaded up to 40 children during their October 7 attack on the town of Kfar Aza. The incendiary allegations spread quickly and were widely repeated in the media and by President Joe Biden, who falsely claimed during a meeting with Jewish leaders that he personally saw photos of beheaded children, which the White House later walked back, admitting he had not seen any such photos and that the US had not verified the claim. However, Israeli journalists who visited the scene of the alleged beheadings saw no evidence to support the allegation and the Israeli military officials accompanying them made no mention of it. The Israeli army subsequently refused to confirm the claim and more than a week later no evidence has emerged to support it."
   CONTINUED

 

I've said before and I'll say it again. The attacks should be on Netenyahu and his Israeli supporters. I am disappointed that we are not seeing more Jews in the streets protesting Israel's action but that could be a result of fear. It's not a Jewish thing but rather an extremist in Israel trying to delay his own trial. Hopefully saner minds take power and soon. To those making it an anti-Jew thing, shame on you.

Israel withdraws completely, 100%.
Fixed borders created.
Jerusalem made a religious city state like the Vatican.

 

Golly gee, that's almost no one. They're darn near saints. Praise the Lord.

 

First, the Jews are the indigenous population, they aren't colonializers and colonialism wasn't all bad.

For example:

WESTERN COLONIALISM ENDED THIS ALONG WITH THE SLAVE TRADE: Study confirms funerary huts at King Ghezo’s palace built with blood of human sacrifice victims. “King Ghezo ruled Dahomey from 1818 to 1858, a period marked by military conquests and the transformation of the region’s economy, heavily reliant on the slave trade. The kingdom of Dahomey, with its capital at Abomey, was a dominant power in West Africa, known for its aggressive raids on neighboring regions to capture slaves. These captives were either traded for European goods, forced to work on royal plantations, or sacrificed in elaborate voodoo ceremonies.”

But neither this, nor colonialism applies to the Jews.

Israel is conquering Gaza because Gaza is committed the genocide of the Jews, and as part of that effort, despite a ceasefire, invaded Gaza and raped, tortured, and murdered young Jewish women by the hundreds and hundreds.

 

So, totes innocent "collateral damage"!

 

Ted Cruz Notes:

'The “journalist” who wrote this was an active Hamas terrorist who was at that very instant holding a Jewish hostage prisoner in his home.'

The Palestine Chronicle
@PalestineChron
·
Apr 24
“Homes are gone, and with that, the memories, hopes and aspirations of Palestinians and their ability to realize other rights,” the statement continued. Read the latest story by Abdallah Aljamal, reporting from war-torn Gaza. https://palestinechronicle.com/domi...sahli-towers-in-gazas-nuseirat-refugee-camp/…



I shed no tears for "Collateral Damage" in Gaza.

 

Before I assess your most recent misconceptions, I'd like to show that polls more recent than yours show that the majority of Americans oppose Zionist genocide in Gaza.

"The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds"
https://truthout.org/articles/the-m...disapprove-of-israels-genocide-polling-finds/

EXCERPT "According to a Gallup survey conducted last month, 55 percent of Americans say that they disapprove of Israel’s “military action” in Gaza — up from a minority of 45 percent in a November Gallup poll." CONTINUED

ALL more recent polls show a downward trend in support for Zionist genocide so deliberately posting an outdated poll is deliberately misleading

Re:

Today's average Israeli is no more related to the ancient Hebrews than they are to the Eskimos.

Additionally, even a casual student of ancient Middle Eastern history knows of the Canaanites, Phoenicians, Arameans, Samaritans etc so the Hebrews were neither the first nor the only inhabitants of the Levant.

Re:

First of all, saying that " colonialism wasn't all bad" is like saying "slavery is not all that bad.": It depends on who is colonized or enslaved.

If you were "colonized" out of your family's land and home of generations, I suspect you or anyone would react the same as the Palestinians.

Re:

If you really believe this delusional but popular script, you're either exhibiting selective outrage and / or an inadequate knowledge of the region's history.

Foreign, Zionist terrorist gangs were armed and trained by Germany's SS. (1). Where else did they learn to shoot and train?
The Zionist terrorist gang, Haganah, which was to become the IDF participated in the massacre, rape, mutilation and destruction of over 500 Palestinian towns and villages.
A popular form of "dual murder" among these European Jews was to bayonet pregnant women in the abdomen. (2)

Apologists for today's blatant Israeli genocide pretend that only Hamas commits war crimes in a conflict that began on 7 October 2023 but with no Israeli exit strategy, daily massacres of innocent civilians, and no investigation as to how the "surprise" attack occurred with so much foreknowledge, it is becoming more evident that the "surprise" attack provided the perfect license to exterminate native Gazans, destroy all evidence of the existing residents and hand out more Palestinian land to militant, foreign Jewish "Settlers".

I hope you'll see that today's Gaza genocide is just another suspicious step toward a US funded "Greater Israel" .

Thanks,






(1). “Zionism and the Third Reich”
https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html

EXCERPT “In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag, Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. /19

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS. /20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs. /21

In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. /22” CONTINUED

19. Lucy Dawidowicz, The War Against the Jews, 1933-1945 (New York: Bantam, pb., 1976), pp. 253-254.; Max Nussbaum, "Zionism Under Hitler," Congress Weekly (New York: American Jewish Congress), Sept. 11, 1942.; F. Nicosia, The Third Reich (1985), pp. 58-60, 217.; Edwin Black, The Transfer Agreement (1984), p. 175.

20. H. Höhne, The Order of the Death's Head (Ballantine, pb., 1984), pp. 380-382.; K. Schleunes, Twisted Road (1970, 1990), p. 226.; Secret internal SS intelligence report about F. Polkes, June 17, 1937, in: John Mendelsohn, ed., The Holocaust (New York: Garland, 1982), vol. 5, pp. 62-64.

21. F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 63-64, 105, 219-220.

22. F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 160.


(2) “Deir Yasin Massacre, 09.04.1948”
https://www.countercurrents.org/alhelsi100410.htm

EXCERPT " One of the worst Zionist massacres committed against Palestinians is the Deir Yasin massacre. Defenceless Palestinian civilians were tortured before being massacres and their bodies mutilated. Women and children were raped, babies were butchered and pregnant women were bayoneted." CONTINUED

 

That's fake News. Israel is responding to Gaza's attempts at genocide, and Gaza's getting their genociding asses kicked.

Per May Polling, Americans very strongly support Israel's just actions in Gaza


April tag to illustrate trend.

 

Yes, we know....... everything that's not cherry picked from the Hasbara Handbook is "fake News" but every credible poll out there shows a growing number opposing what can only be condemned as a genocide.

Why didn't you show the web site address to see what other whacky things the same source claims?

Every recent poll I've seen shows that most people oppose Netanyahu's genocidal misadventure.

For Example:

"The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds"
https://truthout.org/articles/the-m...disapprove-of-israels-genocide-polling-finds/

EXCERPT "New polling finds that the majority of the American public now say that they disapprove of Israel’s genocidal siege of Gaza. Approval of the assault has plummeted over the course of a few months as Israel slaughtered at least 33,000 Palestinians and continues its destruction of Gaza with impunity.

According to a Gallup survey conducted last month, 55 percent of Americans say that they disapprove of Israel’s “military action” in Gaza — up from a minority of 45 percent in a November Gallup poll." CONTINUED


"Majority in U.S. Now Disapprove of Israeli Action in Gaza"
https://news.gallup.com/poll/642695/majority-disapprove-israeli-action-gaza.aspx

EXCERPT"After narrowly backing Israel’s military action in Gaza in November, Americans now oppose the campaign by a solid margin. Fifty-five percent currently disapprove of Israel’s actions, while 36% approve." CONTINUED


Re:

Israel went from beyond "responding" to 7 October 2023 after it killed about 1,200 Palestinians. After that it was and is just vengeful genocide.

Finally, let me know when Israel wipes out the growing millions of resentful Islamic resistance fighters that exist among the world's 1,7 Billion Muslims.

Israel is ready to fight for its "Greater Israel" to the last drop of American blood.

 

You're still hawking that old March poll?

Sad!

 

And they don't mind killing their own according to several reports. Gunships and tanks shooting up other Israelis. At this point in time, the Israeli Government is doing Satan's work.

 

I doubt that we'll ever know the truth but I suspect that IDF killed a substantial number of Israeli victims on and after the attack of 7 October 2023.
We know that these trigger-happy IDFers even gunned down frantic, half naked hostages waving white flags.

Finally, at least some individuals in the Netanyahu regime knew about the "surprise" attack well over a year in advance(1).

Hamas even produced and circulated a video showing exactly how, where and when the attack would be carried out.

There were multiple warnings of the pending attack from several nations as well as meetings among Israeli officials concerning what should be done in preparation from attack.
The decision concerning preparation for the attack was to do nothing.

Why do nothing when you know that you are going to be attacked and knowingly sacrifice innocent lives in the process?

Anyone familiar with the infamous Zionist expertise in false flag operations, exploitation of tragedies and wars "by way of deception" must be aware that land hungry Zionists won't hesitate to sacrifice the lives of other Jews for the establishment of their mythical "Greater Israel".

Apparently, Netanyahu's decision makers concluded that the lives of about 1,200 Jews were worth an excuse to destroy and seize Gaza while systematically
exterminating Gaza's native population.

This would not be the first time that strident Zionists were willing to sacrifice the lives of other Jews for "Greater Israel":

“If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.”
Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth’s Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).
https://www.progressiveisrael.org/ben-gurions-notorious-quotes-their-polemical-uses-abuses/


Thanks,



(1). "New York Times report says Israel knew about Hamas attack over a year in advance"
https://apnews.com/article/new-york-times-hamas-attack-israel-gaza-6088cad78f5e4153d671fe9b5b819308

EXCERPT "The attack was planned in plain sight. A month before the assault, Hamas posted a video to social media showing fighters using explosives to blast through a replica of the border gate, sweep in on pickup trucks and then move building by building through a full-scale reconstruction of an Israeli town, firing automatic weapons at human-silhouetted paper targets.

In the video, the militants destroyed mock-ups of the wall’s concrete towers and a communications antenna, just as they would do for real on Oct. 7.

Adding to public outrage over the military’s apparent negligence, the Israeli media has reported that military officials dismissed warnings from female border spotters who warned that they were witnessing Hamas’ preparations for the attack. According to the media reports, the young women reported seeing Hamas drones and attempts to knock out Israeli border cameras in the months leading up to the attack." CONTINUED



(2). “Haaretz confirms Grayzone reporting it dismissed as ‘conspiracy’ showing Israel killed own festivalgoers”
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/11/21/haaretz-grayzone-conspiracy-israeli-festivalgoers/

EXCERPT “Israeli outlet Haaretz has acknowledged a police report confirmed partygoers at a festival three miles from the Gaza border were killed by the Israeli military on October 7, just two weeks after the publication accused Grayzone editor-in-chief Max Blumenthal of spreading “conspiracy theories” for reporting on the story.

In an article published November 19, Haaretz reporter Josh Breiner wrote that an official investigation into the deaths of Nova festival attendees “revealed that an IDF combat helicopter that arrived at the scene from the Ramat David base fired at the terrorists and apparently also hit some of the revelers who were there,” citing “a police source.” “ CONTINUED

 

And the history for israel starts in 1948.

 

Seems holding hostages can get you killed.

 

That's because you support the murdering raping savages of Gaza who launched a genocidal war raping and murdering young Jewish women by the hundreds.

I'd like to see those bastards try that in Wyoming.


Not a F Joe Biden voter

We thank GOD for the 2nd amendment that secures our basic human right to lethal self defense should savages bent on murder or grave physical harm mistake us for an easy kill.

 

I fully support the 2nd Amendment but it is absolutely moronic to claim that Palestine's native residents "launched a genocidal war" on 7 October 2023 when genocidal Zionist terrorist gangs had been murdering, raping and mutilating Palestinian refugees for almost 100 years:

“Deir Yasin Massacre, 09.04.1948”
https://www.countercurrents.org/alhelsi100410.htm

EXCERPT " One of the worst Zionist massacres committed against Palestinians is the Deir Yasin massacre. Defenceless Palestinian civilians were tortured before being massacres and their bodies mutilated. Women and children were raped, babies were butchered and pregnant women were bayoneted." CONTINUED

 

Well, other than, under a cease-fire, they invaded Israel and raped and slaughtered unarmed young Jewish women by the multiple hundreds.

Gazans made themselves enemies of civilization. I do not weep for collateral damage in Gaza.

ENEMIES OF CIVILIZATION: Meet the UC Santa Cruz students arrested at Hamas-endorsed encampment.


Hamassholes.

'Police at the University of California, Santa Cruz, arrested 112 students on May 31 while clearing an anti-Israel encampment.'

Including staff and faculty.

'In total, 112 UCSC students, three faculty, one staff member, and eight other individuals were arrested while police cleared the encampment, according to Lookout Santa Cruz.'

'Eight additional protesters were arrested Monday after occupying a building on campus, according to KSBW.'

Even UC Santa Cruz has had enough of the Jew Hating Hamassholes.