Italian government can´t be formed, because Germany doesnt accept italian economic minister

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  1. Concord

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    Yes, that's right. That's your problem.

    That's your mistake, not mine.

    Unless they actually go bankrupt. Then they get to start over, assuming they can find a source of lending.

    You Germans need to learn the lesson taught by Orban, it's the debtors who hold the cards.
     
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    Well, bad for Spain and France then.

    In endeffect we will starve them and they fall in line as always. Italians need a short leash.
     
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    How about Deutsche bank, herr Sobo? I hear it is going to crash. :below:
     
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    And here is why many people in this part of the world laugh at the EU.

    Germans will decide Italy's financial decisions but Italy is responsible for their own shoreline, and that is expected to protect Europe from a Muslim invasion.. Germany is going to have to put up some very strong borders to insulate themselves from other European countries and, without immigration and their low birth rates, they'll be gone within this century.

    Europeans think short term. This is why they are always having some war or crisis, believe they'll have it all worked out with a new ism, and then (all the while criticizing Americans) will march confidently forward into their next debacle. The smarter ones have already emigrated.
     
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    The US did fund it! The reasons were simple they wanted to make West Germany strong because of the perceived dangers of East Germany and Stalin so the US hyper funded development in West Germany whilst France, England, Belgium, etc had to drag themselves back up.

    This is why Germany is the power house it is today also it has 20 million more people than the UK and double France's population.
     
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    Doesn't look like such a great decision today in hind sight.
     
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    We are overpopulated and need to shrink to 60 Million.
     
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    Why?
     
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    Because Germany didn't deserve to survive Hitler. We should have given West Germany to the Jews in payment for Holocaust.
     
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    Countries have to right to elect who they want and by extension the officials that go with it, if Germany push this it will destroy the EU.

    I strongly suspect Merkel wants it to fail, the only reason UK left was illegal immigration, remember how close the vote was if the EU had backed stronger controls on illegal immigration that would have been more than enough to swing it.

    The EU could have worked but it's just plain broken at the moment and I'm not sure it can be fixed.
     
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    Do you agree that over expansion is at the root of the problem? In other words if the South had not been let into what was essential a North European customs union the EU would not be facing an existential crisis?
     
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    We are 80 million Germans. There are 6 million jews.funny you want murder 80 million people. You are plain and simple sick.
     
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    I didn't say anything about murdering anyone. Germans today would simply work for the Jews like the Palestinians do in Israel.

    See? Nothing to worry about :)
     
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    No worries there. It will also be 60 million old people.
     
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    You are wrong! Russia has the second most powerful military in the world, and they managed it with a fraction of the cost of the US. Don't ever underestimate them, they are very secretive.

    I read something quite interesting which goes against everything we have been told. According to a book by an analyst, Stalin was prepared to attack Germany and take Europe, that's why all its arms were at the front, but Hitler attacked Russia first and was able to destroy much of them.

    This is logical when you consider that the Soviet system was an international one similar to Washington's 'one world order', and felt it couldn't exist with other political and economic systems. Lenin always planned on taking over Europe, which wouldn't have been difficult since there were mass communist demonstrations all over Europe.

    At the time, the Soviet Union was thought to have 5 thousand tanks, when it had 27 thousand tanks - which were more tanks than all the nations in the world. What did they need them for? Germany in contrast had only 7 thousand - and they were way inferior to the Russian ones.

    Interesting stuff huh?

    The communist anthem:

     
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    It was always destined to fail because, like Marxism, they assumed the 'big idea' would prevail over national identity and culture. If people are willing to fight and die for the latter it's unlikely they'd give that all away to a group of bureaucrats in a foreign country.

    It should have just been a trade deal and nothing more. Instead they thought they could also become a third Superpower, always a ridiculous notion given Europe's history.
     
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    While Russia may have the second strongest military they have a weak economy, an aging population, and no allies.
     
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    In the eastern german states is the highest birthrate and no foreigners here.

    What we need is a drastic reduction of people. Of course there is a step until the old ones die who are excess population. The rising automatisation makes more and more unskilled people simply obsolete.
     
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    As i said, you are demented to the core. You are old and soon cold.
     
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    You are thinking in terms of Europe. Russia supports arms and trains men on its southern borders. To give you an idea of man power, Moscow alone gives out work visas to 5,000 temporary workers a day. This is why they couldn't take in any uneducated migrants from the ME. As for the birth rate in Russia, it has been steadily increasing - and not through immigration. The Muslims have their own Republics within the Federation.

    Here's an interesting comparison of the US military and the Russian military. While the military budget of the US is about 588 billion dollars, the Russian military budget is less than 45 billion dollars - and yet Putin said that there won't be an increase, since they have everything. What this video doesn't cover is the electronics, which sent the SS Donald Cook sailors to the psychiatric wards a few years back.



     
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    And here is the real Russian Army

     
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    But the East Germany are not enough to supply all of Germany with babies and, as Germans age, there'll not be enough workers paying taxes to provide the pensions and health care Germans have come to expect. Merkle likely let all these Muslims into the country hoping they'd be the ones to look after older Germans but soon came to realize that Muslim not the German future she envisioned.

    Robotics may fill a lot of the lower end jobs, as you say, but doubt that will be a sufficient solution to the needs many western democracies need to maintain their social programs for an aging population. They'd be better off looking to Latin America. Good people who can integrate well and without terrorist tendencies.
     
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    To reduce our high population, its normal that we have a phase with old excess population. Merkel now kicks the Muslims out.

    And no, we dont need foreign scum here. We start to have a baby boom right now, with highest numbers in eastern german women. What we need is more family friendly politics.
     
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    You're wrong about the birth rates. https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-birthrate-drops-2017/29005373.html

    And the long term doesn''t look so good either. https://jamestown.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Berman_-_Russia_in_Decline_01.pdf?x87069

    They'll soon be 25% Muslim.

    If the Russian leaders were smart they'd turn towards Europe and the democracies to face the future together and tackle the common problems facing all developed nations rather than pretending to be the tough guys on the block. But I doubt they can break from this ancient habit any time soon.
     

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