Italian government can´t be formed, because Germany doesnt accept italian economic minister

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  1. LangleyMan

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    So what? That doesn't excuse your crying.
     
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    If you say so
     
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    Yes, I have.

    There is no real 'they' in Europe because there are many countries with varying standards of living.

    Those tax cuts seem to be paying off. I doubt any European country can compete with this.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/05/there-are-more-jobs-than-people-out-of-work.html
     
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    Northern Europe can compete because they figured out you can't squeeze business to pay for the things we need to do for people and the economy.
     
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    Northern Europe can't compete. Their products are over-priced in the US market because of the high taxes Northern Europeans pay to support their all-encompassing welfare state, something that the left wants to inflict on Americans. How is that not squeezing business?
     
  6. LangleyMan

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    Northern Europeans have had low business taxes (they'll have to sharpen their pencils now that wre've cut taxes).
     
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    I enjoy low business taxes, low income taxes state and federal, low property taxes and 4% sales tax. I have all the services I need and want for nothing. Its not crowded here, the beautiful countryside has not changed in generations, people are happy and prosperous. America remains a more profitable, productive and pleasant place than Northern Europe and that isn't going to change any time soon.
     
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    America isn't appreciably richer than northern European nations.
     
  9. Swede Hansen

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    And I didn't say it was did I? Your reply was not responsive to my post.
     
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    More profitable? For whom? Business? Workers? Canada has a higher median income for workers.

    Productive? Maybe. The U.S. dollar being a reserve currency gives us a higher standard-of-living that we would have otherwise. Here's the PPP for different countries...


    Ireland, Switzerland, and Norway have higher per capita GDPs. So, too, Luxembourg, but it's so small we can write it off. The Netherlands, Iceland, Sweden, and Germany are close and might be as high as we are if the dollar wasn't a reserve currency.

    More pleasant? No. I think it used to be, but no longer.

    The people happy? No, not as happy as people in Australia, Sweden, New Zealand, Canada, Netherlands, Switzerland, Iceland, Denmark, Norway, and Finland ... the top 10. The U.S. is 18th.

     
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    Your posts are not responsive to mine. Your use of strawmen isn't helping.
     
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    I addressed what you wrote. Who are you kidding?
     
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    I didn't say anything about happiness or higher media incomes...you are changing terms to suit the data you can find regardless of whether its relevant or not.
     
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    Good, hope this melt down starts soon and EURO is a better place to start then here. I am ready, got everything in place to thrive while the working class Trumpeter says "What happened" I thought he was going to make me great again and do it on 16$ an hour. he told me it would be OK ? Well, it isn't HIS fault, it is Obama's, and that damn Hillary for those emails, and had Benghazi never started, we wouldn't be in this position...
     
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    Plus, Germany has the smarter people and started out after the war with LESS Greedy filthy RAVEL. They live within their means, they pay a great wage and equal income for all while still under a democracy. Their mistake was getting into the EURO. They are us from 1946 - 1983 only they continued down the same path and didn't allow their FED to puppet politicians into making changes to benefit only the rich.
     
  16. LangleyMan

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    You wrote:

    "I enjoy low business taxes, low income taxes state and federal, low property taxes and 4% sales tax. I have all the services I need and want for nothing. Its not crowded here, the beautiful countryside has not changed in generations, people are happy and prosperous. America remains a more profitable, productive and pleasant place than Northern Europe and that isn't going to change any time soon."

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/italian-government-can´t-be-formed-because-germany-doesnt-accept-italian-economic-minister.533673/page-6#post-1069172794
    You specifically mentioned happiness and I submit talking about the median income is a reasonable metric for measuring prosperity.
     
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    This is a good article on the reality that Germany demanding this and Italy giving in to Germany or the EU has reduced the sovereignty of Italy while at the same time the democracy of the EU. By doing so the viable future of the EU is reduced - unless such behaviour is stopped resulting no doubt in many more ethnic nationalist states with all the hell they bring.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/06/23/defending-the-eu-rather-than-ones-own-country/
     

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