It's Debatable: Has Elon Musk made Twitter unsafe?

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  1. Zorro

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    Judge in Missouri v Biden ain't buying what the government's shoveling

    Government illegally coordinating with Social Media to suppress speech.

    'The Missouri v. Biden case has revealed the Biden administration's shocking disregard for the free speech rights of its political opponents and scientific dissidents. The judge hearing the case referred to it as a Ministry of Truth. This thread by @akheriaty is absolute fire.'

    'our lawyers were in court yesterday for Missouri v. Biden seeking a temporary injunction to halt the government's censorship industrial complex. In our petition, we explained how this regime has been functioning with the following analogy...'

    'Suppose that the Trump White House, backed by Republicans controlling both Houses of Congress, publicly demanded that all libraries in the United States burn books criticizing the President...'

    '...and the President made statements implying that the libraries would face ruinous legal consequences if they did not comply, while senior White House officials privately badgered the libraries for detailed lists and reports of such books that they had burned...'

    '...and the libraries, after months of such pressure, complied with those demands and burned the books. Suppose that, after four years of pressure from senior congressional staffers in secret meetings threatening the libraries with adverse legislation if they did not cooperate'

    '...the FBI started sending all libraries in the United States detailed lists of the books the FBI wanted to burn, requesting that the libraries report back to the FBI by identifying the books that they burned and the libraries complied by burning about half of those books.'

    'Suppose that a federal national security agency teamed up with private research institutions, backed by enormous resources and federal funding, to establish a mass-surveillance and mass-censorship program that uses sophisticated techniques to review hundreds of millions of...'

    ' ...American citizens electronic communications in real time, and works closely with tech platforms to covertly censor millions of them.'

    'The first two hypotheticals are directly analogous to the facts of this case. And the third is not hypothetical at all--it is a description of the Election Integrity Partnership and Virality Project.'
     
  2. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Is free speech inherently divisive or harmful:
     
  3. garyd

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    People have a right to be crazy and for e the rest of us to rearrange the English language to suit their neuroses?
     
  4. Curious Always

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    Huh? You do you, Gary. Be yourself. Just don't step on the rights of others to be themselves. It's not for you to determine anyone else's authentic way to live. If you don't like what someone is doing; don't do that. Pretty easy stuff.
     
  5. garyd

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    But it's not authentic it's broken as hell. Look at them. Most of them can't even do a decent impression of a female.
     
  6. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong. LOL. You just don't know how many you encounter who completely pass. If some of the trans men out there went into the women's room, you'd go ballistic.
     
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    Yes because the first amendment wasn't really designed to protect popular speech or government sanctioned speech. It was designed to protect the voice of dissent and detraction which makes it divisive.

    As for twitter, that platform needs a format overhaul. It functionally works a little to much like myspace used to without being as customizable I think. I would replace the forced fed views tab with tab that takes you to a platform that feels a little more like facebook and maybe a third tab that works a little more like youtube where viewers can park vids outside of their normal timelines.
     
  8. garyd

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    Like hell. First there is a difference between drag aka cross dressers/transvestites and gender diasphoria. And I for one am tired of people acting as if it should all be rolled into the same box. The former don't actually believe they're women they just like wearing women's clothing. RuPaul made a living doing it nor would he insist on using the ladies bathroom.
     
  9. Curious Always

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    I said nothing about drag queens. You are all over the place. Drag queens are performers and they are well aware they are performers. Do you think the actors in Avatar think they are blue people from another planet?

    Gender dysphoria is not related to drag queens.
     
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    The bolded is not accurate. Under the previous ownership, Twitter employed partisans to be the "fact checkers". Under Elon, we have what's called "Reader's Context". The users are now the fact checkers. It's a pretty big change.
     
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  11. garyd

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    Isn't that what I just said? Gender diasphoria is a mental illness that needs to be treated as such. So called affirmative doesn't help the problem it makes it worse. Everybody in Europe save perhaps England us backing away from it as fast as they can.
     
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    Yes, berating people with dysphoria is likely the best approach. Would you tell a kid born with eight toes that he is an abomination? Why are issues of the brain so hated? There is literally no harm in assuring those who are different that it’s okay to be different.

    You may want to live in Stepford Wife Utopia, but most of us don’t.
     
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    yes, sure, it was center of the isle, now it's far right
     
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    He's doing his best to make it a joke.
     
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    That is crazy. One is not born with gender diasphoria, which has nothing to do with being gay. Good Lord do you know anything about this subject or are you just a band wagon jumper?
     
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    I am infinitely more qualified than you. This is clear.
     
  17. garyd

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    Believing horse crap does not make you more qualified. And what you have thus far put forth makes it painfully obvious that you have no damned idea what you're talking about.
     
  18. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL. Okay. Enjoy your day.
     
  19. dairyair

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    Nonsense
    They ran a business to make money.
    And sold it for a tidy sum of money.
     
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    All current publicly available evidence says you are wrong .
     
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    What part of my post is nonsense?
     
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    Partisans.
     
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    Call em what you will, most of their fact checking boxes on controversial subjects like Covid and Jan 6, linked to Democrats parading as independent fact checkers. With the new Twitter, any user can contribute to the fact check.
     
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    I called them nothing.

    You did.
    Remember? Partisan?
     
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    And you quibbled with my use of the word "partisan". Called my true post nonsense because you didn't like the one word, huh? The contrast between old Twitter's management and the new is stark. My original point.
     
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