I've finished my ballot harvesting

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  1. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We three, who live in this house, filled out our ballots last night, put them in the individual protective sleeve and signed them (one each.)

    Today I harvested them and dropped them at the USPS.

    I'm pretty sure that's how ballot harvesting works.

    Cheers! I'm happy to be done, though I wish my cell phone could be told that it's all over. OMG these cell phone ads are killing me!!

    I voted split ticket between all three parties. Did not vote for one incumbent. Voted no on all judges.
     
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    It doesn't apply to same household.
     
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    No that is not how ballot harvesting works. Made up nonsense.
     
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    Not illegal. Going door to door certainly is…or tent to tent with a hand-full of joints, or rest home to rest home.
    In California the apartment gang mailboxes are mostly keyed alike. As you know apartments have a lot of turnover, so there are lots of undelivered ballots. Why not a special “Return to Sender” lock box?
    How much is a sack of 100 un voted ballots worth in a close election?
    Then who watches the postman?
    Why doesn’t the postman had scan returned ballots?
    So if you want to cheat you will only get caught due to bad luck.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Some loser politicians promoted paranoia concerning Americans' ability to participate in democratic self-governance, but amidst the glaring absence of credible evidence of fraud that had them wee-weeing their frillies, they're coming around.

     
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    absence of evidence of fraud is no reason not to take security measures to try to prevent fraud, especially when it is under a system where it would be very difficult to impossible to determine if fraud was even taking place.

    An analogy would be like having a cashier collect money from customers and leaving it in a big clear jar, keeping no records of the purchases, and then claim there has been no evidence so far of theft so there's no reason to lock the money up. How would we even know whether there had been theft, under that type of system?

    It really seems Democrats are trying to create a system ripe for abuse, where it will be really difficult to impossible for anyone to tell whether fraud is taking place.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's a big difference between handling someone's ballots who live in the same household, versus handling ballots of strangers in different households.

    Logically you are not totally incorrect though, they are on the same spectrum, but what you attempt to be doing is making an argument from extremes.
    Pick something that seems very innocent and normal, and then compare that to something else that is sort of a similar thing but taken to much more of an extreme.

    It's obviously much easier to commit fraud on a large scale if the ballots you are handing in do not live in the same household with the same mailing address.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For those on the Left who do not seem to be able to understand why security measures should be taken when it comes to ballots, try this: just imagine that instead of a ballot it is a gun.
     
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    Wrong, according to all the 2020 and 2022 election fraud so-called experts and forensic experts that have come up with definite numbers of election fraud from several states, from thousands to hundreds of thousands.

    Though they're still out there searching for those "2,000 Mules" lol
     
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    According to the election fraud loons it certainly did and does.
     
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    If it ain't broke, and you can't contrive credible evidence that it's broke, don't pretend you're trying to fix it to obstruct partisan-targeted Americans from voting.

    Of course, scrupulous records of voting are maintained that facilitate investigations, recounts, and audits, as well as bipartisan monitoring of vote tabulations.

    When no investigations, recounts, and audits uncover fraud that could possibly alter an election's result, losers' partisan claims of fraud cannot be taken seriously.
     
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    Well in that case, according to the Right, everyone should be allowed to have and use a ballot without a backround check .
     
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    Losers' hyper-partisan, unsubstantiated paranoia is a feeble pretext for obstructing an American's right to vote.

    Yes, a Trump-financed recount in Wisconsin and a Trump-financed audit in Arizona uncovered more votes for President Biden in 2020, but the errors were, apparently, in tabulation, not fraud, and had no impact on the outcome of the election.
     
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    You make a good point.

    People shouldn't be dropping off guns in mailboxes, which is exactly the same as mailing in votes.
     
  15. fullmetaljack

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    Say, flipping that "security measure" thing around, if you have to register to vote, why don't you have to register to buy a gun ?
    Ballots can be checked against registration, guns............... oh well, there goes the "security" thing.
     
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    Ballots and guns differ considerably.

    The U.S. Mail serves admirably for many official purposes - taxation, jury duty, licenses of various sorts, etc., etc..,etc.

    Loser's vote paranoia was counterproductive. The Loser's flip-flop followed.


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    There is indeed an argument in favor of votes being set up in such a way as to maintain the privacy of how the person voted. There are arguments for and against that. (And might I point out, mail-in voting does not protect the privacy of how an individual voted)
    However, protecting the privacy of how a person voted is not the same thing as protecting the privacy that a person voted.

    I think the big difference can be summarized with one simple fact. By right, a person is only entitled to cast one vote. So that means that by necessity there has to be regulations that take away the right to privacy of whether that person voted. If we don't verify that you only voted once, then that is infringing on my right to vote.

    You can argue whether or not people should have to be required to register to vote, but I think this is mostly a moot point. Whether or not they be required to separately "register", we still need that same information before we can allow them to vote, if we are going to have a secure election.

    Now, I can't more precisely deal with your statement until you get more specific about exactly what you mean.
     
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