Jews heavily involved in The trans Atlantic slave so called trade.

iHave two independent and verifiable sources. One I've given you, the jewish encyclopedia and the other I've stated is a Portuguese government transcript, that as of yet, I've not named [in this thread]. That second source is the manueline ordinances.

 

Also iHave another source from the Jewish virtual library.org. that states the Portuguese Jews were "negro".

 

iHave also proven that the first Portuguese Jew in north America was a black Jew, one whom you called a mullato, as if somehow refuting my comment.

Do you concede that he was black, like the mullato Barack Obama?

The biblical Jews would have been mullato, since they were an AFROASIATIC ppl. A semite, half. Half African, half Asian.

So the biblical Jews would have looked like Obama but even darker, since Obama is half African, half European and not AFROASIATIC.

 

Post the link that says this. Thanks.

We all know the Portuguese and Spanish Jews were not black. Except maybe for a few unique exceptions.

 

The first Portuguese king Dom Afonso Henriques appointed the first Chief Rabbi in the 12th century. Portugal didn't exist in the 11th century.

 

My bad. 12th century.

 

Still waiting for the quotes from your source.

 

Also another source, a Jewish American anthropologist, M Fishberg, from the 19th century states that the Jews of north Africa were of the "negroid phenotype" in Jews: race and environment.

 

Post link so we can read it.

 

Fascinating book.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.32000000659872

Does not validate your racial claims.

 

1. Race is an outmoded and meaningless term. It was created by an anthropologist to describe people of the Caucasus Mountain region who had blue eyes and blond hair most likely reminants of Alexander's Army when it passed through raping/pro-creating.

2. Race was used in a purely subjective manner to describe the hair texture, nose shape, eye shape, lip size, skin tone of three types of homo sapiens: 1-what we was called cucasian or white; 2-negroid to refer to Africans; and 3-mongoloids to describe Koreans-Japanese-Vietnamese-Chinese-the Inuit natives and many native aboriginal people of Canada. These types were based on secondary genetic characteristics not relevant to actual determination of someone's true genetic makeup. So for example you can have two white people who are less similar in genetic inheritance than a black and a white. The secondary characteristics have been proven to be secondary and immaterial to defining medical or genetic similarities when determining illness.

3. Jews are not and have never been a race. Nazis described Jews as an inferior race. Jews find anyone who describes us as a race ignorant. We are a people with a collective identity based on many factors including but not limited to religion, art, language, food, shared sense of political persecution, literature, customs. We come in every variation from dark skinned African to pale skinned European. We are all shades of skin colour, nose shape, lip shape, hair texture, size and some of us would be subjectively called, black, white yellow, India Indian, Chinese, Nepalese, White European, Arab, brown, black.

4.The original Hebrews by virtue of living in the Middle East would be darked skin. As they scattered and moved like all peoples, their secondary characteristics would evolve to the environment around them.

5. The method to determine descending from the Hebrew people today can be done by DNA and blood investigation.

6. Jews were a type of peoples called Semites and the other semitic branches died out.

7. Jews of Eastern and Western Europe called Ashkenazis look white to darker people. Tsfardic or Mitzrahi Jews are often called Arab Jews in that they look identical to Arabs and like Arabs originated from the Arabian Peninsula, on across to North Africa, all the countries of the Middle East. Technically some Tsfardic Jews are not "Arab" Jews in that they did not come from countries that speak Arabic, they come from Iran which was Persia. Then there are the Felashies of Ethiopia who are not Tsfardic or Ashkenazi.

Chinese, Indian, Nepalese, other African (outside the Felashies of Ethiopia) would not call themselves Tsfardic. East European or Ashkenazi Jews used Yiddish as much or more than they did Hebrew as well as the languages they grew up with and their culture mixed with bits of their host countries. Tsfardic Jews would speak Arabic and their diet, music and culture would be influenced by their host countries. Felashies, African Jews other than Felashies, the Jews of Bombay.

8. There has always been a certain degree of cultural difference and so social conflict between all the sub types of Jews but its not racial-its cultural-its far more complex than looking at one's nose shape.

Summary

1-I can promise you that if I put up a chart of faces on this forum none of you could tell the difference between an Indian from India, Mexican, Jew, Muslim, Arab, Israeli, Asian, European.

2-This thread was started out to single out all Jews as slave traders in an effort to demonize all Jews. If it was a genuine thread about slavery, it would discuss all kinds of slavery and this basic fact-the more people look different from one another, the more likely they will engage in war and slavery. This is because all humans being homo sapiens war and compete with others outside their pack more than they do inside their pack.

The bottom line is we are pack animal apes led by Alpha males and still define people by how similar they look to the people in our own pack. We distrust those outside our pack and see them as threats competing for the same natural resources. We have not yet evolved past that primal ape behaviour.

Slavery is the behaviour of dehumanizing fellow humans and most likely ones that look different than your own pack. Religion and politics were used to institutionalize and facilitate this practice.

Humans of every culture and genetic characteristic may have engaged in slavery, war and dehumanization of those considered inferior to them. Its not specific to any one people.

Today as we speak slavery is prevalent in North Africa and the Middle East. Dubai-UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, import Muslims from Mauritania, Niger, Chad, Dahomey, Senegal, the Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, Bangladesh and make no mistake about it as cheap slave labour. They are given food and lodging of the most basic kind, i.e., a blanket on a floor and basic food, i.e., rice and water and must pay for their room. Their passports are confiscated until they leave and if they make any money, its send home to their families.

We also in the first and second world, use cheap labour in third world countries to work in factories to produce our products so as to enable maximum profit margins because if we manufactured the products in first or second world countries we would have to pay higher wages and adhere to health and environmental laws which do not exist in third world countries.

So let us cut the **** on this thread improperly defining what we Jews are. Like all humans some of us Jews were slaves and persecuted, some of us have persecuted others.

For the record I reject Esau's threads and comments because I believe many of them attempt to single out specific ethnic groups as evil in a vacuum from a greater context of history. The fact is all humans have warts not just the specific peoples Esau or any one else may want to focus on.

Have a nice day and I carry my own damn bags thank you.

 

Interesting that you failed to mention the very people this topic was created about in your little soliloquy on "who is a Jew".

Deliberate or merely unknowing?

Who knows.

 

Esau is trying to prove that the "original" Jews (whatever that means) were black Africans, meaning that the Jews of today are "fake Jews" and don't deserve to have their own country.

Just one of the many conspiracy theories about Jews.

 

Thou project too much. You have no clue about my beliefs or agenda, as shown by your comment and it's as likely that you have no clue about netanyahus real purpose or the actual purpose of a kingdom of Israel.

If you deny the truth of my belief in an "African" component to israel, on equal footing with an Asian or European one then you are doing the antisemites work for them.

This is why there is a suspicion of the real agenda of European Jewish folk amongst Jews.

 

Let's see who real Israelis think were the biblical Jews:

 

Wow, one guy. Amazing!!!

 

You claim there are 100 million Jews in the world. All of them being black people.

Nuff said.

 

They think there are enough stupid people who will buy that rubbish and then give them free stuff.

 

As for the slave trade, the Arab Muslim trade was larger and lasted much longer, in fact it is still a thing. We never hear the left sniveling about it here, so we know they don't really care about slavery per se. And, those Jews that were engaged in it were not the majority, and they had investors such as the King of Spain and Popes backing their trade runs.

 

A real Israeli though!

 

Make a topic about your whataboutism then and stop parasitizing mine, thanks

 

True, you didn't say they were all black. But you DID say there are 100 million Jews on Earth.

 

Over 100 million. Get your quotes right.

 

Exactly! While some people want talk only about Jews and slavery, some trolls insist to show that the biggest slave traders were Arabs and Black Africans:




Please! Remember, this thread is only about Jews and the slave trade, don’t even mention that slavery continued in Ethiopia until the Italian invasion in October 1935, nobody wants to know it!

We don’t want to hear about any Black Nigerian slave trader like:
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/my-great-grandfather-the-nigerian-slave-trader

So agreed? Only about Jews and slave trade!

 

Got any evidence for this amazing claim?