John F. Kennedy in 1960 - A time when Democrats could be proud of their candidate

never said they were

 

But it was the yanks who fired the first shots at the Vietnamese in 1964 in the Gulf of Tonkin after attacking a Vietnamese navigation radar within Vietnam's territorial waters, given that the Vietnamese were no threat whatsoever to Planet America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

 

Wrong.

The communists had already invaded Vietnam before the gulf of Tonkin

THEY fired the first shots

 

IOW the yanks fired the first shots in the American War against the Vietnamese after attacking a Vietnamese navigation radar within Vietnamese territorial water in the Gulf of Tonkin, given that the Vietnamese were no threat whatsoever to Planet America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

 

Nope

the first shots were fired when the communists invaded which was well before the gulf of tonkin incident

BTW your own link clearly states the North Vietnamese fired FIRST

 

IOW the yanks fired the first shots in the American War against the Vietnamese after attacking a Vietnamese navigation radar within Vietnamese territorial water in the Gulf of Tonkin, given that the Vietnamese were no threat whatsoever to Planet America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

Fortunately the Vietnamese triumphed in the American war against the Vietnamese, and not the puppet Saigon dictatorship of Nguyen Van Thieu. And why the yanks retreated and built a wall to celebrate and remember a complete fiasco, and why President Nguyen Van Thieu said "The United States has not respected its promises. It is inhumane. It is not trustworthy. It is irresponsible."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguyễn_Văn_Thiệu

And why Vice-President Nguyen Cao Ky said the American War against the Vietnamese was "instigated by foreigners, it was brothers killing each other under the arrangements by foreign countries", and said in 1968 that "The Americans are here to defend their interests, and not because they have any particular concerns about us".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguyễn_Cao_Kỳ

And why Nguyen Sinh Cung who was a Vietnamese saint and revered by the Vietnamese said in 1945 about slavery of the Vietnamese by the French colonialists "All men are created equal. They are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"
"All men are born free and with equal rights, and must always remain free and have equal rights."
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ho_Chí_Minh
https://www.cfr.org/blog/rememberin...e Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_in_the_Vietnam_War

 

read your link

It clearly states the communists fired first , the day BEFORE the US fired on any navigation station

So you are lying and defeating yourself

TOO easy

You have been an intellectual failure and a massive ignoramous about the war since your first post and YOU keep proving it

I love it when drooling morons post links defeating themselves

 

Fortunately the Vietnamese triumphed in the American war against the Vietnamese, and not the puppet Saigon dictatorship of Nguyen Van Thieu. And why the yanks retreated and built a wall to celebrate and remember a complete fiasco and that the Vietnamese were no threat to Planet America anyway, and why President Nguyen Van Thieu said "The United States has not respected its promises. It is inhumane. It is not trustworthy. It is irresponsible."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguyễn_Văn_Thiệu

And why Vice-President Nguyen Cao Ky said the American War against the Vietnamese was "instigated by foreigners, it was brothers killing each other under the arrangements by foreign countries", and said in 1968 that "The Americans are here to defend their interests, and not because they have any particular concerns about us".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguyễn_Cao_Kỳ

And why Nguyen Sinh Cung who was a Vietnamese saint and revered by the Vietnamese said in 1945 about slavery of the Vietnamese by the French colonialists "All men are created equal. They are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"
"All men are born free and with equal rights, and must always remain free and have equal rights."
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ho_Chí_Minh
https://www.cfr.org/blog/rememberin...e Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_in_the_Vietnam_War

 

Unfortunately for you silly opinons mean nothing

facts prove the US was on the correct side defending the vietnamese from communist aggression.

 

Which is fortunately why the Vietnamese triumphed in the American war against the Vietnamese, and not the puppet police dictatorship of Nguyen Van Thieu in Saigon which brutalized the Vietnamese. And why the yanks then retreated and built a wall to celebrate and commemorate a complete fiasco, given that the Vietnamese were no threat whatsoever to Planet America anyway, and why President Nguyen Van Thieu said "The United States has not respected its promises. It is inhumane. It is not trustworthy. It is irresponsible."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguyễn_Văn_Thiệu

And why Vice-President Nguyen Cao Ky said the American War against the Vietnamese was "instigated by foreigners, it was brothers killing each other under the arrangements by foreign countries", and said in 1968 that "The Americans are here to defend their interests, and not because they have any particular concerns about us".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguyễn_Cao_Kỳ

And why Nguyen Sinh Cung who was a Vietnamese saint and revered by the Vietnamese said in 1945 about slavery of the Vietnamese by the French colonialists and other imperialists "All men are created equal. They are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"
"All men are born free and with equal rights, and must always remain free and have equal rights."
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ho_Chí_Minh
https://www.cfr.org/blog/rememberin...e Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_in_the_Vietnam_War

 

Very UNfortunate sicne the communists who started the war merely replaced a corrupt regime with an even more corrupt regime

A communist slave state which brutalized the vietnamese people even more

Unfortunately for you silly opinons mean nothing

facgts prove the US was on the correct side defending the vietnamese from communist aggression.

 

So what are the facgts about the number of vietnamese the yanks were actually "defending", and was it more or less than ten?

Which is fortunately why the Vietnamese triumphed in the American war against the Vietnamese, and not the puppet police dictatorship of Nguyen Van Thieu in Saigon which brutalized the Vietnamese. And why the yanks then retreated and built a wall to celebrate and commemorate a complete fiasco and sing "Yankee Doodle", given that the Vietnamese were no threat whatsoever to Planet America anyway, and why President Nguyen Van Thieu said "The United States has not respected its promises. It is inhumane. It is not trustworthy. It is irresponsible."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguyễn_Văn_Thiệu

And why Vice-President Nguyen Cao Ky said the American War against the Vietnamese was "instigated by foreigners, it was brothers killing each other under the arrangements by foreign countries", and said in 1968 that "The Americans are here to defend their interests, and not because they have any particular concerns about us".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguyễn_Cao_Kỳ

And why Nguyen Sinh Cung who was a Vietnamese saint and revered by the Vietnamese said in 1945 about slavery of the Vietnamese by the French colonialists and other imperialists "All men are created equal. They are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"
"All men are born free and with equal rights, and must always remain free and have equal rights."
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ho_Chí_Minh
https://www.cfr.org/blog/rememberin...e Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_in_the_Vietnam_War

 

What the french did is irrelevant, That was a different war.

The US was defending the vietnamese against the communist aggressors who brutally enslaved them

 

And why the yanks then retreated and built a wall to celebrate and commemorate a complete fiasco and sing "Yankee Doodle"
Yankee Doodle went to town
A-riding on a pony,
Stuck a feather in his cap
And called it macaroni.

 

Sometimes the good guys lose

Vietnam was one of those times

 

Is that just your intuition? Do you simply believe the official version?

Just to make sure the viewers see these videos...
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ud-of-their-candidate.619609/#post-1074880577

...and this.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/american-imperialism.371897/

Outside of the US people laugh at Americans who still believe the US official version of the Vietnam war.

 

Which is why the good guys won. And why Nguyen Sinh Cung who was a Vietnamese saint and revered by the Vietnamese said in 1945 about slavery of the Vietnamese by the French colonialists and other imperialists "All men are created equal. They are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"
"All men are born free and with equal rights, and must always remain free and have equal rights."
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ho_Chí_Minh
https://www.cfr.org/blog/rememberin...e Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

 

That is because those people are brainwashjed dupes

There is NO official version I am stating the scholarly proven version

 

The good guys lost

Communism always makes for evil men and that is who won

 

Nope. The good guys won. And why the yanks retreated and built a wall to celebrate and commemorate a complete fiasco and sing a patriotic song.
https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervi...A1BF7A40D702C31CC107A1BF7A40D702C31&FORM=VIRE

 

The bad guys won

The started the war invaded and enslaved a nation

 

https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervi...A1BF7A40D702C31CC107A1BF7A40D702C31&FORM=VIRE

 

Yes the bad guys were the north vietnamese communists who started the war

 

Nope, the bad guys lost and didn't enslave a nation like the French colonialists they supported and financed, and why they retreated and built a wall to celebrate and commemorate a complete fiasco and sing a patriotic song.
https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervi...A1BF7A40D702C31CC107A1BF7A40D702C31&FORM=VIRE

 

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You are wrong and know nothing about history

The bad guys won

Communism is evil and those who practice or follow it are always the bad guys especially when they start wars like they did in vietnam