Jon Stewart demolish a 2A fanatic

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  1. Turtledude

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    you cannot evaluate that claim without additional facts-our country has been trending safer from 1985-2020 even though over 100 million more guns and 10 million more people carrying
     
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    Sorry no they aren't they had vastly less gun crime than we did before they passed the laws and what they basically did was trade a less than one
    percent drop in homicides for 5 to ten percent increase in all other crimes by category.
     
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    Yes I can.
     
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    you cannot evaluate that claim without additional facts-our country has been trending safer from 1985-2020 even though over 100 million more guns and 10 million more people carrying
    correlation yes, causation no
     
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    depends-overall we have added more guns and we have lower rates of violent crime.
     
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    Go ahead, give it your best shot, right here.
     
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    But are the crimes gun crimes?
     
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    Stewart’s argument wasn’t wrong, however, I still don’t want any laws that make it harder for law abiding citizens to obtain firearms. Especially since we all know criminals do not obey laws.
     
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    Was that a pun? :)
     
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    Really? You think, so it must ge so? Prove it.

    Seriously, that's beyond scraping the bottom of the barrel

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Dahm

    You righties gotta start doing your homework before you post your comments.
     
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    Where the hell do you live that you keep getting “attacked”?
     
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    OK. Then I hope you have a better explanation than the one Stewart and @Arkanis was using by simply correlating an increase in guns with a decrease in safety because I think I have already proven that is a fallacious argument.
     
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    Changing the subject is the single most desperate attempt at debate. Either you can argue Stewart's points, or you can't. If you want to discuss fascism and anti-semitism, start your own thread.
     
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    Don't assume it was current.
     
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    lower rate of violent crime. lower rate of gunshot homicides. armed robbery
     
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    This was no debate.
    A 13 year old could have flushed Stewart's Bloomberg scripted drivel if he tried.

    The 2A advocate could not have been a better foil for Stewart's transparent show.

    Please think.

    Have you ever seen a talk show host lose a " debate"
    on the air?

    Thanks,
     
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    Who is "we?"

    You keep failing to watch the video and debate any of Stewart's points. I sense fear.
     
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    Truth. but you know the real story. I shot a mugger in 1985. Not where I live now
     
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    I have better things to do than listen to someone who isn 't educated in the field. He's a comedian Fear? I ripped Sarah Brady up so badly in front of the Cincinnati City Council she told then Mayor David Mann and or Charlie Luken (the two guys who brought her there) that she would never return. I annihilated Pete Shields at Yale-he was the mendacious head of Handgun Control Inc. Those were professional gun banners
     
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    The thread is titled "Jon Stewart demolish a 2A fanatic". @Bowerbird decided to change the subject and demand that someone watch her unrelated pirated video on Australia by a comedian other than Jon Stewart who was very specifically talking about the U.S. and never mentioned Australia. Since @Bowerbird was demanding someone watch her video, I offered to watch hers if she watched mine.

    Like usual, you are taking things completely out of context.

    I have specifically brought up Stewart's points but you have avoided responding to my response as everyone has.
     
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    Only accidental gun deaths count? Tell that to the parents of dead kids who were mowed down in their schools.

    People with guns who become suicidal will most definitely use that gun in an instant, whereas if there was no gun available to them, they would have to think about how to die, which could give them an opportunity to change their minds, or call for help. I know this from first-hand experience.

    What part of Stewart's argument was primitive or juvenile? Please clarify.

    The dishonesty is only in your opinion. Facts exist, and the right's "alternative facts" don't count.
     
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    Then why can’t you offer solid arguments?
     
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    Please take a look at my comments earlier in this thread.

    I'd be happy to address anything you consider a "solid argument".

    Thanks,
     
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    And in other countries that banned guns they too have lower rate of violent crime. lower rate of gunshot homicides. armed robbery.
     

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