Jordan Codices found to be authentic. Jordan announcement soon!

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  1. jedimiller

    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    This is HUGE and you won't hear it on the national media. Just heard it on coasttocoastam.com.

    The Jordan codices have been examined and been found to be real. About 30 books are dated about 2000 years old.

    If you don't know what these are...educate yourself here.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Lead_Codices
    These books will prove Jesus was real. What will the Atheists do now?


    Jordan will have a HUGE announcement, maybe in a couple or months or sooner.




    Summary of the radio interview.

    Joining Ian Punnett, Egyptologist and author David Elkington talked about the Jordan Codices -- ancient metal religious texts that could change the way we view Christianity and the Bible. The books are made entirely of lead and written in a form of ancient Hebrew (Hasmonean) that dates back to the 1st century BC, he explained. Within the metallic pages are numerous Messianic symbols, Temple representations, and even portraits of a person resembling Jesus, Elkington said. "It confirms the underlying story in the gospels, and confirms for the first time that Christ not only existed, but he was truly a king of Israel," he declared.

    Some scholars have called into question the authenticity and age of the codices. According to Elkington, results from a series of chemical, spectagraphic, crystallographic, and corrosion tests strongly support a 1st century dating of the metal. The letters themselves have been molded with the lead and are also corroded, he noted. It is nearly impossible to artificially corrode lead, Elkington continued, pointing out that no scholars have thus far been able to answer how it could have been done. In addition, the ancient language used in the metal books is only known by a handful of experts, he said. Elkington also spoke about the area where the codices were found, speculated about the people who wrote them, and revealed some more details about their contents.




    Another Article.

    http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=40893
     
  2. Felicity

    Felicity Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where is the new information on this...all I see is old stuff and basic background about the codices?
     
  3. jedimiller

    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    On the radio last night. David Elkington was on saying the books have been examined and found to be real. It's going to be a while before the stories are released. He said it was old hebrew, probably some language Moses used and that there are only like 5 people in the world who can decipher it.


    Expect the media to jump on this...heard it here first.
     
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    I guess I'll have to wait....:sun:
     
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    Last I heard they were proven to be fraud.....
     
  6. jedimiller

    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    lol. Atheists are going to far lenghts to prove this false and to attain them. The Jordan government wants them and if they get them they will never release the information in these books. They are AFRAID! because the books prove Jesus was real, with science. right now about 20 or so books have been looked at by scientists and been proven to be real.
     
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    Stop and think.. It would be terrific if they were real, but they are NOT.. This is old news..

    This would be great for the Jordanian government if they were real, BTW..
     
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    WRONG Margot. You didn't hear the scholar on the radio the other night..he's the one leading the investigation. he says the results so far confirm they are real.
     
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    Some crackpot AM radio broadcast??

    Try this.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14251461

    DOUBTS ABOUT AUTHENTICITY.
     
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    Except later you say "Expect the media to jump on this...heard it here first." - make your mind up. :)

    Unsubstantiated claims on a radio show isn't proof of anything. When results from independent scientific studies are published in a peer reviewed journal, you'll have something to shout about.

    The Wikipedia article you linked suggests lots of questions about their authenticity and very little in response to verify them.

    Well, this one is going to post this and then go for a late lunch. I can't speak for any others.

    I'm already fairly confident Jesus was a real person (though the true details about him are unclear). I'm not too sure about him being "truly a king of Israel" and I obviously don't believe he was the son of God. These Codices would be an very interesting archaeological and historical find (if authentic) but that is as far as it goes.
     
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    The codices are REAL.. but no one knows how old they are.

    They could be 500 years old.

    People have been faking artifacts forever.
     
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    and moses was thought to walk about 1300bc and akkadian was the writing of canaan during that period

    jesus was thought to talk aramaic

    if old jews put a picture on the book, it was not about jesus. Perhaps of a messiah but not jesus. No one knows what jesus looked like.

    The books are cast not scribed.

    The only thing that makes them appear old is the decay.

    the smelting if of the region but that aint proof

    there is a bunch to suggest a hodgpodge of combined items and so far the main claims are closer to phoenician (zoroasterissm) and/or kabbalah (jewish mysticism)

    Nothing in there about jesus

    ie...... messianic does not mean christian as christianity has always tried to consider jesus the messiah but jews (most all of them) have come to terms that jesus was not messiah. (even jesus said it (matt 16;20) and all over the bible)


    The thread is using many items to try and suggest the books represent jesus but if someone was to share the book of thomas, book of mary (gnostic texts) which claim to be of jesus' period and jesus words, they contradict what bible represents and people deny them.

    Just because these books show a cast of a face and even one rendition claims a crown of thorns (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-First-portrait-Jesus-1-70-ancient-books.html) anyone can see the depiction themselves and not see that. Likewise, the little ones had not been opened and in each case they were not found in one location as represented but purchased by a 'wealthy' resident (per the opinion(s) i have read)


    This thread is a sham
     
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    Moses spoke EGYPTIAN.

    This story has been in the news for a year....
     
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    born and raised in egypt

    and akkadian was the language of canaan (palestine/israel) of the period of moses (amarna letters/stone tablets)

    ie.... i bet the exodus was the schism of egypt from the old beliefs to monotheism by ahkenatan (who could have been the moses of judaism)
     
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    If the books date to the 1 century BC, then they can't prove Jesus existed. Jesus was alive in the 1st Century AD.
     
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    There has been a big business in fake artifacts and religious relics for over 1000 years.
     
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    jedimiller, I'm not sure if you're aware of this but America Coast to Coast is a show about UFO's, ESP, ghosts, and other fringe topics. Nothing on that show is real.
     
  18. jedimiller

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    ur kidding right? Coast to coast has been the frontrunner when it comes to topics on religion, UFOs, medicine etc. I have been listening to the show for 15 years. All of their guests are real people that know real science. I'm in california and George Noory is the host now. Art Bell retired. You are ignorant if you think the show is NOT real. Pathetic.

    Here I am calling the show.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNtLgO6JuAU"]Jedimiller calls Art Bell - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    'look, it's Okee doaky"


    Talk about putting a nail in the credibility coffin
     
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    its no joke Bishadi. You will find i'm right about the codices.
     
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    Probably not.. this has been in the news for over a year.. and you state "YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST".
     
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    What makes you so sure? It seems to me that nothing has been confirmed either way.

    Couldn't you have a little confirmation bias in wanting these artifacts to be what you believe them to be because you feel they would validate your religous beliefs?
     
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    It would be great if they were real as presently the oldest manuscripts of the NT are dated 2cnd century.

    The beliefs of the early Christians differed substantially from what Christians today believe so if anything such a find would do more to debunk modern Christianity rather than support it.
     
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    LOL! How the heck would anyone know what Jesus looked like to even make that statement! More proof that your type can't be trusted to even know what the word "truth" means, much less to tell it.
     

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