Kamala Harris Blames Trump for the Afghanistan Withdrawal

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    That accusation suggests a very high level of fear and doubt about Commala's chances of winning. It makes it look like the Harris/Biden Campaign staffers are running around with their hair fire trying to conduct damage control.

    It was Biden and Harris that concluded their plan of withdrawal was good-to-go. Commala was "the last man in the room" according to Biden. Which means she was the last one left to say, "this is going to be a clusterfuck, Joe and we need a better plan". But, she didn't and she's admitted that she is comfortable with her decision.
     
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    You should probably learn what Trump negotiated before making this claim. Because your side is the "fear and doubt" one here, and Trump and the GOP even removed the Taliban Trump agreement from their websites.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    The withdrawal occurred on the Harris/Biden watch. The fault lies with them. That goat **** belongs to them and those animals are too unsophisticated to have any regrets about their decision.

    Let me point out: they admit the withdrawal plan was their decision!
     
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    The withdrawal was Trump's plan and the travesty involved the thousands of terrorists that Trump freed. The fault is with both of them. I agree that they should have done more to correct Trump's mistakes, but they were still his mistakes. Taliban Trump should never be in office again.
     
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    It gets worse. In that same speech, he mocked our allies and bragged that they would fall to his Taliban buddies after we left.
     
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    After 20 years we were lucky to just get out. The longest war in U.S. history. In WW2 we simultaneously beat Italy, Germany, and Japan in 4 years. At least Trump had us pulling out and Biden concluded the withdrawal. It's now history.
     
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    I must say that I saw the Afghan mess coming as Biden was just settling in to the presidency. As the deadline for the end of Trump's negotiated cease fire came ever closer the situation became ever more dire. I reached out to the contact link on the White House website and sent a message about my concerns straight to the top. But to no avail. Biden waited out the deadline and it passed causing disaster.

    To be fair a new president has to get oriented to the job and have training from the staff. Plus they have a ton of issues to address all of them urgent. :)
     
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    Your attempts to pretend the Doha Accord doesn't exist won't work. You can stop shifting the goal posts any day now. Doha happened. Pretending it didn't isn't going to help. Just because Trump and the GOP tried to erase it from the internet doesn't mean it didn't happen.
     
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    The withdrawal deadline was 1 May 2020. Biden pushed it back to 11 September, then he moved it up to 31 August. Biden has the strategic firepower needed to put the Taliban on its heels, to protect the withdrawal. He didn't use it. He owns the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle and Commala was the last person in the room.
     
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    The conduct of the withdrawal was Biden's plan.
     
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    Not after Trump had already pulled out so many troops and had freed more terrorists than we had soldiers and told the Taliban we'd leave the country to them. No.
     
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    I agree that Biden should have tried to do more to undo Trump's plan.
     
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    Biden was in charge. It's his baby and Commala was the last person in the room.
     
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    Again, I agree that Biden should have aborted Trump's Taliban baby.
     
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    Biden was in charge. The tactical plan was his doing.
     
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    Biden had the authority. Every decision made on his watch belongs to him.
     
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    The surrender agreement was Trump's doing. Trump painted him into a corner. And you are now going to vote for Taliban Trump.
     
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    If you were willing to say the same about Trump, I could take you seriously. You are unwilling to say Trump owns ever decision made under his watch.
     
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    Joe Biden did not abide by the "Doha Accord"... it then became the "Biden Gets 13 Soldiers Killed Accord" with an encore of "Biden's Botched Drone Strike Kills Children And A Family Accord"

    Would you like to talk about the terrorist that killed the soldiers and where "Biden Gets 13 Soldiers Killed Accord" fits in to it all... Those soldier's blood is on Biden's hands.

    You attempt to pretend Biden's vote didn't matter
    Joint Resolution (S.J. Res. 23 ) Authorization for Use of Military Force
    https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1071/vote_107_1_00281.htm

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    More US soldiers died in Afghanistan under Trump. And while Biden delayed the timeline Trump licked terrorist boots for, it was still Trump's agreement. And Trump still freed 5,000 terrorists. I'm no longer interested in your attempts to flee and hide.
     
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    Oh my.... would you like to talk about freed terrorists? Let's have that discussion...
     
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    No. Because you aren't willing to have a discussion. You are about to run away and hide from the thousands of terrorists Trump freed and try to change the subject. I have no interest in such avoidance. IF you were willing to man up and talk about this, I'd be willing. You are not willing.
     
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    And then refused a peaceful transition to the next CIC.

    trump team owns it but since they never take ownership for any of their failed bullshit I doubt it will occur here either.

    Thankfully Biden finished it and didn’t kick the can down the road like the felon did.
     
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    ZERO Americans died after Trump started negotiations... it seems Trump threw a picture of the leaders house on the table.... when the leader inquired Trump explained the house would be removed from the earth with everyone inside... kinda humble a man right up...

    You don't seem to want to mention the terrorist that were released do to Biden's action there... would you like to discuss what you are missing out on?
     
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