FoxHastings said: ↑ That's why Anti-Choicers/Anti-Women folks want to ban abortion....once women's basic rights are taken away then they are ripe for having ALL their rights taken away by people who hate and fear women That does NOT negate my statement....it's true. Women can be just as mean and stupid as men. LOL, you are DODGING around :That's why Anti-Choicers/Anti-Women folks want to ban abortion....once women's basic rights are taken away then they are ripe for having ALL their rights taken away by people who hate and fear women".... And yes, women are individuals whether YOU like it or not and women have DIFFERENT opinions from each other...they are not cattle despite what Anti-Choicers wanting them to be. LOL, I see you have thrown logic out the window once again. Yes, it's a women's rights issue (some "people" are trying to destroy women's rights) .....uh, duh, wanting women to have rights is not just about abortion. Are YOU saying that some women don't want rights ???!!!!!!!! HOW!???? By giving them the basic human right of bodily autonomy?!!!!!! HOW TF is that " dominating what women think" ? It is keeping their right to their own body and be able to CHOOSE WHAT THEY WANT. Republicans want to control what women do and tell them what they want......THAT is dominating what women think...
So women who disagree with you are mean and stupid, yet you are a champion of womens’ rights, got it . The ability to commit a homicide is not someone’s basic right. The right to live and not have a homicide committed against you IS a basic right!
so you can look at a dead person and determine if that person died from poisoning or a stroke at a glance? Wow that is some talent! Truth is you can’t, but truth is not your strong suit.
The law is worthless because there is no benefit to society. You cannot demonstrate otherwise so you move the goal post to stabbings. So far, all you have done is create a demand for medical tourism. Not a single abortion will be prevented.
You have zero proof of this, nor do you even have a rational explanation of why you think this!!!! Furthermore, why would someone go to another state to avoid a law that cannot be enforced or prosecuted? Are you starting to see how ridiculous your position is yet?
My position is one of opposition to government interference in our lives. Vaccine mandates, gun control, abortion laws, etc. All you have done is borrow arguments from the Democrats. I gave you the benefit of being 100% right and added unlimited resources and you could not describe how these laws could be enforced. You can't even make it work in theory. You don't have an argument and have resorted to personal attacks. Abortion laws have no benefit to society.
Personal attack? Where? there are areas where govt is needed, and areas they need to stay out of. protecting our basic right to life is a place Govt belongs. Forcing us to take a poisonous shot not so much, removing out ability to protect our families- not so much. You seem to lean toward anarchy, I am more practical than that.
DUH ugga duh....if a woman has a miscarriage or abortion it's quite different from poisoning or stroke.....see, the symptoms are ( duh) different..
I already pointed out your ad hom fallacy. Now you are resorting to more false statements to avoid answering a simple question. I am far from being an anarchist. You are back to saying government is "needed". Needed how?
Resorting to ad hom fallacies only reveals ones inability to defend a position on merit. Abortion laws have no benefit to society and there is no benefit to reading posts from those incapable of thinking their position through. There is a benefit to the "ignore" feature on online forums.
There is nothing "practical" about government getting between a doctor and patient. Choice of medical care is one place where government needs to stay out. And, that is absolutely practical. We already have the FDA and CDC ensuring that medical treatments are safe and effective.
LOL, I thought so. when you can read and comprehend a point without claiming one was never made, get back to me.
First of all every doctor who commits abortion for a woman just because she wants one has violated the oath he or she took. This is not “ health care” it is a hired killing. there is nothing practical about allowing doctors to act as hit men or women!
I was very clear. There is nothing "practical" or even legitimate about inserting government between a person and that person's qualified doctor. Anyone on the political right will explain to you that we have too much government intrusion. And, in this case there is NO doubt that they are right.
Once again, a hired killing of another human being is NOT HEALTHCARE!!!!! many have been brainwashed to believe it is though!
This just reflects on your level of understanding of healthcare. Who decides whether a pregnant woman takes chemo and lives?
This just reflects your indoctrination and level of brainwashing. Chemo? Cancer? What does this gave to do with a woman deciding to kill her child?
There are healthcare situations where the treatment will save the woman's life, but are toxic to a fetus. It's your indoctrination that causes you to ignore healthcare of the woman and rational evaluation of the fetus.
such a small percentage of abortions it is ridiculous to claim this proves your point. But you know that. My point stands. The many many actual majority of abortions are basically taking a hit out on a child!
A fetus is a potential, NOT a child. And, you clearly do not know or care about the health of the woman. I really don't see any substantive justification for the abortion laws that Republicans demand. In the early Roman Catholic church, abortion was permitted for male fetuses in the first 40 days of pregnancy and for female fetuses in the first 80-90 days. Today, 48% of Catholics approve of abortion while 47% are opposed. Even evangelical protestants are divided, with a third believing abortion should be legal in all or most cases. I just don't see an argument that government should prosecute abortion when the majority supports abortion in all or most cases and our religious groups show significant division including support for abortion.
normal guns are not at risk, never will be - but machine guns and ar-15's will be harder to buy though why ban guns for ex-felons if what you say is true? don't the families of ex-felons deserve the right to have their families safe too?
most abortions are had by Christians in this country, if Christians really wanted to reduce that number, all they have to do is choose not to have abortions
Why you projecting your failings onto Doof mate.. Is you who has "zero proof" of your silly claims.. and it is easy to figure out why someone would go to another state for an abortion .. because of a law that cannot be enforced or prosecuted .. Just because you can't figure it out .. is no reason to call others ridiculous
No, the point is that a woman has a right to her own healthcare decisions. Our constitution doesn't confer rights to fetuses.
