Kyiv:UAF begin offensive ops in specific areas.

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    50,000 Battlefield losses per month Zoomie .. your claim the same as beloved Vlad .. so good agreement .. much better than the estimate of 12 million which was ridiculously false nonsense ... showing you that your UAF defense ministry figures for Russia were ridiculous propaganda nonsense :)

    Still waiting for you to back up your "Ukraine is winning" claim and tell us how many Battlefield Loses Zoomie @Durandal is stuck on this one as well .. perhaps you could team up .. help each other sort this one out , figure out why Ukraine is running out of fresh meat, and have that Eureka Moment when you both discover that Ukraine is losing badly.

    What happened to all the fresh meat Zoomie .. and why do you want to slaughter all the green teens .. in the same way 2 generations of Ukrainian men have been slaughtered .. it is really a genocide conducted by Volado when you think about it Zoomie .. and you should !
     
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    They most certainly are winning. I guess you want to pretend that battlefield casualties determine that, as if it were a game and casualties = points on a scoreboard, and the higher score wins.

    Pretty daft, mate.
     
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    Make up your mind Durandal .. first you say it is delusional to claim you said "Ukraine is Winning" now you say Ukraine is winning ? Then you call me daft ??

    and Battlefield casualties are an indicator of who is winning .. what other indicator did you wish to suggest .. territory gained/Lost ? .. and you call me daft ? Obviously Ukraine is losing on numerous fronts -- in terms of battlefield casualties Ukraine is getting slaughtered .. a 5-1 ratio a conservative estimate.

    but no need to worry about what I want to pretend .. It is Volado who said NATO troops on the ground was part of the Victory Plan ..

    Now were is your estimate .. that backs up your nonsense unsupported "Ukraine is winning" claim Ukraine is certainly not winning the war of attrition are they.
     
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    You said: Where is you battlefield loss estimate Durandal -- back up this bold claim of yours ..

    I'm not making such estimates. Ukraine is winning, yes. Casualty numbers on each side are but one small part of the overall picture.

    Mafialand is losing. It's losing economically. 9.5% inflation last year, I hear. Oh dear, oh dear.. It's losing more equipment than it can replenish, losing oil and fuel storage and refineries, losing credibility globally, losing popular support domestically, and of course losing a whole lot of lives to achieve nothing beyond making Pootler feel better about himself for having, at least in his mind, moved part of mafialand's borders westward.
     
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    Watch and learn.
     
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    You say Ukraine is winning .. Great .. Vunderbar .. but running around crying out "Im Winning .. I'm Winning" .. is not an argument for anything other than ineptitude at making an argument . In the Adult Room -- when you make a claim .. you are expected to support that claim with something that shows that claim is true. You want to say "Winning .. Winning" Great Wonderful .. you have manages step 1 of an argument you have stated a Premise/Claim ..

    What you continuously fail .. is providing #2 . and thus making an argument. By what metric are using to guage this "Winning" - and NO .. battlefield losses on the Ukrainian are not a small part of the overall Picture. What kind of made up nonsense and obvious falsehood is that ? Battlefield losses is a huge and critical part of the overall Picture 9.5% inflation has no relevance to the Military battle which we are talking about .. nor the economic battle that you have shown in general .. Just ridiculous nonsense through and through. ..

    Battlefield losses are such a critical metric .. Zelensky has said there is no victory without more troops .. which is what we are trying to get at by estimation of battlefield losses .. That is Zelensky's victory Plan .. not mine .. Zelensky's metric .. not mine

    Failing to address the BL - metric -- you deflect to nonsense and falsehood .. claiming "Oh Dear" more equipment than it can Replenish .. which could be a valid metric but your claim is ridiculously false that Ukraine is winning the battlefield equipment war of attrition. What a ridiculous Joke .. how could you not realize that Ukraine is getting absolutely Crushed in the Battlefield equipment war of attrition . Where have you been through this 1000 days of war. ..

    No one .. not Zelensky .. not the Pentagon .. not the Western Media . not Ukraine Pravda . not Pravda.RT not any of the analysts is claiming Ukraine is winning the battlefield equipment war of attrition .. you have deflected into a land mime .. and the enemy has 10 times the artillery that you do .. one front line soldier saying 50-1 artillery (an obvious exaggeration but, point being they are getting crushed in the battlefield equipment war) .. in an artillery trench war where 80% casualties are from Artillery .. which explains the high casualty ratio. 10 -1 has been the standard ratio in most areas along the front line for most of this war ... on good days when a fresh shipments have come in they can get to 5 to 1 .. or maybe even 3 if they are in a Zone considered important

    Ukraine is getting crushed on the battlefield equipment metric .. which explains getting crushed in the Battlefield Loss metric . combined = Ukraine is losing the war .. and losing badly. The idea that a few terrorist attacks makes a big difference along the front line is a preposterously false thought .

    Please support both your winning claim by addressing both metrics A) estimate of Battlefield personel losses B) support your ridiculously false claim that Ukraine is winning on the basis of Battlefield Equipment .. a claim where the opposite has been supported up the yang .. over and over .. throughout this 1000 days of war .. which is the truly ridiculous part of this preposterously false assertion .. the fact you know it is a false assertion "Ukraine is not Winning" on the basis of battlefield equipment .. nor personnel losses. The Ukrainian troops begging for the war to end..

    Facing exhaustion and North Korean troops, Ukraine's soldiers say the war needs to end


    ."I honestly don't think we're going to be able to hold it for much longer," said Chapi, a foreign fighter who spoke to CBC in the Sumy region in northeastern Ukraine, about 15 km from the Russian border.

    "What I am hoping for is that they just freeze the lines for six months. Give the politicians time to try and negotiate."

    Chapi, like other soldiers CBC News spoke with, is only being identified by his call sign in accordance with Ukrainian military rules.

    He and other members of his assault unit describe a worsening situation along the Kursk front, where there are not enough troops or weapons to counter a Russian military bolstered by thousands of skilled North Korean soldiers"

    Facing exhaustion and North Korean troops, Ukraine's soldiers say the war needs to end
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    How many times to you have to hear "not enough troops or weapons" to understand that Ukraine is Losing .. and losing Badly .. the above reporting is the most positive spin they could muster . The Ukraine army is finished by near all relevant metrics.. and thus -- this desire to lower the draft age to 18 is a green teen genocide .. that need not happen if we deal in reality rather than falsehood and propaganda ?

    So Please ..either show that the identified metrics support your "Ukraine is winning Claim" . or stop cheering on the pressing of green teens into the Ukrainian sausage grinder ?!
     
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    Wow...another convoluted word salad and verbal diarrhea.....gifty.

    Provide your 12 million? I'm still waiting.
     
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    OK Jack .. we watching .. are you going to show us a magic trick .. pull a Rabbit out of Hat :) or is this going to be another Knight in Shining Armor story .. coming to rescue Ukraine and take back Crimea !! I feel another name that tune moment coming on "Stand and Deliver - your money or your life - Try to use a mirror not a bullet or a knife " ..... "but even though you fool your soul your conscience will be mine" "ha ha ha"

     
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    Its your 12 million not mine Zoomie .. you gonna be forgetting your own name next in the midst of another potty mouth scat fallacy.

    Still waiting for you to support that " Ukraine is Winning" claim by telling us your battlefield Loss Metric .. first you intimated 12 million Yooks. on the basis of 800K dead Russians .. next you said "Far less than 12 Million" realizing your first attempt at estimation of Battlefield Losses was woefully wrong.

    Now we are waiting Zoomie .. what is your estimate of Yuki Battlefield Losses ? and how does this support the "Ukraine is winning" fable ? "Less than 12 million" does not support the fable Zoomer .. You have already rejected 12 million .. what is then your estimate ?
     
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    Crimea was under direct rule from Moscow for centuries before Khrushchev, and probably will be again. Donbas is strategically insignificant, but Ukraine linked to the West is another strategic loss added to the Pootster’s string of blunders.
     
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    The Orcs will sooner give up DonbA$$ than lose Crimea.

    DonbA$$ is a budgetary black hole for the Kremlin circus. It's not under full control since 2014 and basically hollowed out.
     
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    They won't let Ukraine have control of the mainland to the north, it seems. Water supply becomes too much of an issue.
     
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    Water supply is/has been an ongoing issue in Krym....residents having to deal with foul smelling shyt brown water from taps (since Khakovka dam was destroyed), and now there's oil slicks washing up on the beach and shores from those tankers breaking up in the Black Sea and leaking.
     
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    Best to let Ukraine govern it. Especially with an influx of western investment. They'll fix it all up real nice.
     
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    True they would rather give up Donbass over Crimea .. but .. they are going to have both .. The 20% of Ukraine they have made off with the best parts representing 70$ of the Ukraine economy ... all that beach front property .. all those minerals that Lindsay Graham was salivating publicly over.

    Will be good times for the Ethnic Russians in the Donbass .. and for Russia a major Strategic Victory .. Securing the Port in Crimea .. much more of the black sea .. Vlad will go down in History .. hero to the people .. straw that broke the back of the world economic empire.... .. Now that is a legacy to envy. Right !
     
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    Yeah...for sure.

    Crimea under Ukraine would possibly be turned into an international resort....I.e. Cancun, Mazatlan, Acapulco, Rio, South Beach, Ibiza, Monaco etc. With great marketing, and huge influx of $$$, favorable weather, it would probably go over well.

    Currently it's just a terrorist "paintball range" with no real future.
     
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    Oh now that's dreamy Zoomie .. happy happy thoughts ... those knights in shining armor who are all heading out the stable door much to delight of the cheer team. but, then turning and riding as far away from Ukraine as possible .. as soon as the war ends.. Ukraine was a Mafia state prior to the war . and things will not be improved after .. the situation a disaster .. the nation completely dependent on aid from Washington to keep the Gov't Running .. federal .. state .. municipal ..

    When the plug is pulled.. the lights are going to turn off Zoomie .. and it looks like Trump has both pulled the plug .. and turned off the tap ...as D can attest @Durandal having been crucified on that hill once or twice.

    Forgive me zoomie .. but this "the future looks bright - gotta wear shades" name that tune moment and vision is not shared by the prophet
     
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    You're so delusional that you think I'm 'Zoomie' now. Are you off your meds?
     
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    Ukrainian drones hit a Russian oil refinery in Ryazan at night. 20,000-tons reservoir is on fire, - Reuters

    ❗️Ryazan oil refinery processed 13.1 million metric tons (262,000 barrels per day), or almost 5% of Russia's total refining throughput in 2024.

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    https://bsky.app/profile/maks23.bsky.social/post/3lgirpcl24k2n
     
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    Yep...major kaboomskaya....the terrified shrieks were fun to watch.
     
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    It's a free fireworks show.
     
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    Careful D .. don't want to get reported now .. but , yes that post was for for you not zoomie. Surprised you were not able to figure that out however. .
    Oh now that's dreamy d.. happy happy thoughts ... those knights in shining armor who are all heading out the stable door much to delight of the cheer team. but, then turning and riding as far away from Ukraine as possible .. as soon as the war ends.. Ukraine was a Mafia state prior to the war . and things will not be improved after .. the situation a disaster .. the nation completely dependent on aid from Washington to keep the Gov't Running .. federal .. state .. municipal ..

    When the plug is pulled.. the lights are going to turn off d.. and it looks like Trump has both pulled the plug .. and turned off the tap ...as you can attest having been crucified on that hill once or twice.

    Forgive me d .. but this "the future looks bright - gotta wear shades" name that tune moment and vision is not shared by the prophet
     
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    Don't report me, bro. You called me "Zoomie" repeatedly in that post, so there's no way I could assume it was directed at me.

    Ukraine is in a similar situation to other former Soviet and Russian imperial holdings. Its people knew only oppression and tyranny for centuries before the collapse of the USSR and the subsequent independence many gained. The USSR certainly did establish corruption in its time and it's been a difficult legacy for those former satellites to overcome and move past. If you look at Poland and the Baltics, though, you can see how successful they can be at that. They've had the benefit of being free of Russian influence for a pretty long time now, whereas Ukraine continued to be more heavily influenced and controlled by post-Soviet Russia until pretty recently. It was pretty much only in 2014 that they finally broke free in a meaningful way, in fact, hence the militarism we've seen from Pootler's ruZzia ever since. They really, REALLY don't want to let Ukraine go.

    Does this "prophet" speak to you often? Does it tell you to harm people?
     
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    Now you see what a nice fellow I am .. not sending you to the principles office for the paddle .. and of course there was a way to know it was directed at you D :)

    but, now that you know .. you completely failed to address what was said to you .. rambling off about some USSR silliness. WW2 is over D .. The Soviet Union is no more .... we now have Russia .. who was not happy with the Azov Nazi persecution .. but no more . Russia has now settled the score .. the special operation of denazification a success in the Russian Separatist Zones .. sans Odesa .. the last track of land of significant value

    Hopefully Trump can get this war ended quick as Russia will take Odesa but, why are you blaspheming the Prophet .. the one who taught you up from down .. corrected your errors time after time .. The Prophet did not tell you or me to harm anyone durandal .. are you confusing the Prophet of light with those Islamist extremists .. who's strict sharia ideology the cheer team was radicalized to believe ? Hell no D .. The Prophet of light been cheering for the war to end .. not like the voices the cheer team been listening to .. telling them to go ahead with the green teen genocide .. I say to that voice "get the back " . ain't no prophet of mind you following D .. don't be tarring me with that stank brush .. por favor ..
     
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    This "imaginary" prophet of yours?....there's help for that. Maybe contact a local shrink for therapy?
     
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