Kyiv:UAF begin offensive ops in specific areas.

....if you read the Russian papers they think it's all done, dusted and re-taken.....oddly enough it's like listening to the reverse of that idiot Denys constantly wittering on about how easy everything is for Ukrainian forces....

 

But will it ever be crushed? No one in the west wants to put the work in. It took years and millions of lives to crush the Nazis, and the Nazis didn't have nukes. The naZis in Moscow do.

 

USSR was crushed economically?....as was Warsaw Pact....as was "Soviet Army" back in the 80s.

 

Some do...some don't....the fact that Kursk has been invaded speaks volumes.

 

Yeah, if we're just talking economically, I think that's getting pretty close, though they still have their axis and can keep sending men to die if need be. I wonder how thoroughly they will actually need to be crushed before this ends and Russia sees the change it needs.

 

...well....I suppose that depends on how diplomatic and economic relations with China evolve. China is propping up Putin's economy for now.....

...Putin can't do anything with them without the approval from Xi. Xi needs an acquiescent Chinese Communist party who only exist at the acquiescence of the Chinese Middle class. This "middle class" have aspirations and desires for themselves and their children; everyone wants their children to have a better life than themselves and the CHinese are no exception. This middle class therefore needs jobs and provided by a relatively stable world that trades and banks with China thus China has to have stable ties with the rest of the world. Xi is not going to crush the hopes and dreams and aspirations of that Middle Class just to keep a moribund Putin in power. Xi is not stupid enough to allow Putin nuke the very people that Xi needs to trade with and to bank with in order to keep his Middle Classes in check and himself in power....just my take....

 

"RuZzia sees the change it needs"??

Zs dont really understand that concept, afaic.

Almost 80% of Orcs live in poverty....and will continue to do so. "Holops" will be forever be manipulated by their "boyars"....kept in the dark, fed $hit, and cracked on the head wherever their "boyars" feel the need.

50 million HAD no toilets or adequate water....HAVE no toilets currently, and WILL HAVE NO toilets going forward. I suspect they demand this. It's a self impaling society.

They'll get crushed....but they'll see it as a Western plot....not look inward at their own actions. Zs aren't capable of self reflection.

 

Zruskistan is and will be a Chino vassal for decades. This "war fiasco" has cemented this .

 

Trump and Hegseth apparently want to give Pootler a bunch of Ukraine in order to freeze the conflict, so Trump can declare a false victory.

https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...istic-hegseth-tells-allies/story?id=118727933

I don't expect Trump to understand what he is meddling in, seeing as how he has the mind of the toddler, but I'd think Hegseth could appreciate the folly of appeasement and freezing conflicts akin to what happened after the start of the current conflict in 2014, when Pootler took Crimea by force and had covert operatives begin the hot phase of the war in Donbas.

 

There is no "victory" here. Europe needs to step up bigtime here afaic.

 

so....land grabs do in fact work.....

 

Seems to me Donetsk still isn't secured since 2014?

https://www.uawire.org/ukrainian-fo...ensive-to-reclaim-territory-in-donetsk-region

 

If they get their way, of course Pootler will survive in power and reconstitute, and then when he restarts the war to take all of Ukraine, which he'll probably do under a future Democratic administration, the Democrats will once again be blamed for it by both ruZzia and the Republicans, the true Axis of Evil.

 

.....and in the meantime.....the US goes to war with China.....???.......North Korea has another pop and the South.....land grabs being now okay so why not....???.....all good stuff

 

Yeah, that sounds like another step in the dismantling of the hated Anglo-whatever democratic world order they collectively hate so much and seek to destroy. Pootler wants to restore the USSR and, without a doubt, Commie China wants Formosa back. They have very similar attitudes toward Ukraine and Taiwan respectively - that they are renegades and traitors being led astray by an imperialist west.

 

That must include Siberia and Far East in China's expansionist ideas?

 

.....judging by that absurd tableau of press conference with Trump and Prime Minister Musk yesterday....to be honest I think all Russia and China have to do is sit back and watch their opposition self destruct.....apparently AP are now banned from the press room because they refuse to re-name the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America? And that the press room is now rammed with far right bloggers and the "legacy" reporters (as the serious journalists are now termed) are being slowly dropped off the authorised lists....

 

Sitting back and watching us self-destruct has been their strategy for the most part. Just with sustained efforts to nudge us in that direction through all of the fake news and other covert ops, basically amplifying and further radicalizing the fringes to set us at each other's throats domestically. That, I feel, is why Trump is in office -- again -- and each side of the political divide thinks the other is a threat to their way of life. The more divided we are, the more we in-fight, the less of a threat we are to ruZzia and China. I mean, it's working really well for them, frankly. We can't even put up any serious opposition to this mini-WWII ruZzia has launched and is fighting on Europe's eastern borders. This situation would have been unthinkable during the Cold War.

 

All in due time, I'm sure. First they deal with us, then they turn their attention to gobbling up parts of ruZzia. But maybe they'll go for Siberia and so on first if ruZzia collapses first.

 

Have you been listening Azov Center for Disinformation again Zoomie ? - talking irrelevant sillies have nothing to do with --- >> "I heard the news today Oh boy" ! and the Kremlin was definitely paying attention to Washington circus .. but not afraid to "confront" - talk to Putin .. Trump and Vlad had a nice little chat .. did you not hear the News ?

but --- what about Volado - the Trump office has been doing some auditing Zoomie -- seems like 100 Billion has gone missing .. and Donald wants to know where the money go Zoomie .. Where do you think the money went .. other than up the cocaine comedian's nose and to that lovely Bugatti his wife drives .. got to admit this guy is gangster .. leading what was .. and still is a Mafia State ..

Where did the money go Zoomie . .. or better yet .. tell us where it didn't go .. the JV-team sent out to die without proper equipment or support .. human fodder for the meat grinder.

 

After Putin call, Trump says negotiations to end Ukraine war will start ‘immediately’
By Kaitlan Collins and Kevin Liptak, CNN
Updated 1:04 PM EST, Wed February 12, 2025

CNN — President Donald Trump said negotiations to end the Ukraine war will start “immediately” after holding a “lengthy and highly productive” telephone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday morning.

The call, which is the first known conversation between the presidents since Trump assumed office last month, came as as Trump makes clear to his advisers he wants to bring the Ukraine conflict to a swift end.

Trump administration officials said they hoped a prisoner “exchange” on Tuesday could portend renewed efforts to end the war, which is about to enter its fourth year.

... https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/12/politics/putin-trump-phone-call/index.html​

Let the concert begin. Pootler is already playing Trump like a fiddle.

 

Another diarrhea word salad.

 

We'll see. Trump can't pull any deal off on his own. He needs buy in from both Ukraine and the EU. For now both sides (Ukraine and Russia) have issued public statements stating they are prepared to 'concede ground' in exchange for a peace deal. (Whether they were speaking metaphorically or not will be revealed in due course).

The key problem is that both sides of the war are facing ever tightening constraints on their ability to continue the fight. Russia is running out of equipment (and also money). It's equipment stockpiles of are going to run dry in the next 6 to 18 months depending on what specific system your talking about. After that it's just new builds and there isn't enough of that to sustain current operations.

Ukraine is simply running of manpower. So neither side has many good options.

 

A ceasefire helps the Kremlin....reload, re organize, restart hostilities in 3-5 yrs.

They'll consider hitting a NATO state I suspect. Pootler is looking for a second USSR.

For Ukraine....unless thousands of European troops pour in to enforce anything...it's useless.

 

Yes and no. It depends on the details. Firstly it will take Putin a decade or more to rebuild the armed forces (assuming the intention is to restore the them to something approaching their pre-war 2022 T.O.E.). And that's only if he can find the money to do it with!

Secondly he won't be able to reposition forces for a surprise offensive without NATO noticing and alerting Ukraine/warning Russia off. They noticed back in 2022 and were highly confident in their assessment of Putin's attentions. It was only the fact Zelenskii refused to believe the warnings he was given that gave Russia the element of surprise first time around. That's not a mistake Ukraine will make twice.

Thirdly and perhaps most importantly? A peace deal won't be a one time, deal done, everybody walk's away event. The repositioning of forces will occur via a series of steps and stages. Sanctions won't go be dropped overnight, they'll be be gradually lifted as key milestones are reached etc. And since the mechanisms and legislation needed to support the current sanctions regime has already been negotiated and agreed to? It wouldn't take very long to reimpose them should Russia renege on the deal & attack again. Likewise Ukraine to will likely face potential penalties if it ever thinks about reneging.

Finally both sides are on the clock, because neither can afford to keep fighting this war indefinitely. All other factors remaining the same? The war is headed for a stalemate sometime in the next 2 years anyway.