Kyiv:UAF begin offensive ops in specific areas.

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  1. Durandal

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    No Russians have been persecuted in Ukraine, of course, but it's good that you admit that the rascists are indeed trying to take away Ukrainian language and culture, thereby committing genocide. Baby steps toward acknowledging reality. Atta boy.
     
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    So Club of Angry Patriots opens a Moscow branch.

    LOL.
    https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1668030656482295808?s=20

    Blurred faces....off to a great dubious start!:)

    Instead of organizing "events" ...the members should go fight in Bilhorod/Bryansk/Kursk to ensure that RVC "rebs" don't bite off more of the RF shortly.....LOL.

    APC organizing "events"??....aka...riots,insurrection,overthrow??....seems what's right in Mafiosi is defined by multiple parties lately. Like I said this war has taken on a life form onto itself!:)
     
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    So Club of Angry Patriots opens a Moscow branch.

    LOL.
    https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1668030656482295808?s=20

    Blurred faces....off to a great dubious start!:)

    Instead of organizing "events" ...the members should go fight in Bilhorod/Bryansk/Kursk to ensure that RVC "rebs" don't bite off more of the RF shortly.....LOL.

    APC organizing "events"??....aka...riots,insurrection,overthrow??....seems what's right in Mafiosi is defined by multiple parties lately. Like I said this war has taken on a life form onto itself!:)
     
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    The Ukrainians are advancing, and they haven't even brought up their big stuff yet.
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    Think Ukraine's Offensive Has Started? Wait for the Heavy Brigades


    ". . . A Ukrainian tank battalion normally has 31 tanks. An armored infantry battalion would have about the same number. Add in armored vehicles carrying engineers, air defense, logistics, and so on. An armored brigade would likely have three tank battalions and one or two mechanized infantry battalions. In total, then, an armored brigade is going to have 250-plus armored vehicles of different types.

    I estimate that the Ukrainians have put together anywhere from seven to 12 armored brigades. Some may have only Ukrainian or captured Russian equipment, and others will have a mix of Western-provided kit.

    When we see two or three of those brigades (around 500-750 armored vehicles) focused on a narrow front, it will then be possible to say that the main attack has probably started and where it’s happening. But even then, be careful. The Ukrainian General Staff will want to keep the Russians guessing about the location of the main attack for as long as possible, and they won’t be too bothered (and will probably welcome) Twitter getting it wrong. . . ."
     
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    The orcs managed to ambush one column with Bradleys and Leopard 2s, and now they're posting photos from different angles and trying to make it look like more :lol:

    Nice to see the progress the Ukrainians are making already, though. Doing very well overall.
     
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    Incredible video shows Ukrainian soldiers in Humvees storming Russian trenches


    :)
     
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    Summer is a little over a week away so I suggest that the Moskhainyks head for The Krym and keep going do not stop and then turn northeast and swim the. @&$#$& home or to hell whichever is closest.
     
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    This is recent I assume!
     
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    As a few of us have been saying there will be some loses.
     
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    Long way to go. Let’s wait until the Rotund Female bellows her last stanza.
     
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    I hope that they can keep the fascist air power at bay. I think that's going to be very important if they are to keep advancing and break through those enemy defenses, especially deeper in.
     
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    Well that is just completely false Durandal -- Persecution and killing of Ethnic Russians by the Azov Nazi has long history in the Ukraine.. eventually leading to civil war .. upon which the persecution increased and included war crimes. Your just making things up and presenting as fact .. not actually having learned about the crisis... but even then .... Even Western Media covered the Persecution by the Azov Nazi .. so not even paying attention to that much.
     
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    No, it's the truth. The fascists in Russia have been lying about this to fabricate a lame excuse for this invasion, occupation and theft of Ukrainian land by Russia. Even now, Russians are not persecuted in Ukraine and there are no attempts to ban the language. Instead, you will find that ethnic Russians and Russian speakers in Ukraine are equally targeted by the invader and equally support the Kyiv government and its effort to win this war started by Putin, the latest Napoleon and Hitler type sociopathic Übermensch to come along and callously destroy thousands of lives and bring great suffering and sorrow to millions more to achieve some personal ambition.
     
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    Doing a Good Job so far ... Ukraines Air Defense decimated ... while Russia's multi layered air defence doing very well. Turns out the Prophet was right about the Leak .. once again .. and unfortunately you ended up on the wrong side of the coin. That Echo Chamber has an aweful track record -- need to find some better sources -- something far away from the State Sponsored Propagand outlets. You think folks would have learned from Covid --- these Media Clowns got it "Dead Wrong" .. Pun intended ..
     
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    Ukraine War: Military analyst watches 'sobering' footage of close quarters fighting
     
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    No need to fabricate anything .. It is a well established fact that Ethnic Russians were being persecuted by the Azov Nazi .. where you are just making things up as you go .. 14,000 were killed in the Civil War--- .. or is there no truth to the Civil War claim either.. You know what a Civil War is do you not ?

    US Congress put Azov Nazi on the Terrorist list for a Reason Durandal .. who did you think those terrorist acts were against ?

    "In 2018, the U.S. Congress banned the use of U.S. funds to provide arms, training and other assistance to the Azov Battalion because of its links to the far-right and neo-Nazis." https://ottawacitizen.com/news/nati...nazis-feared-exposure-by-news-media-documents

    https://sarahwestall.com/yes-its-tr...against-humanity-towards-russians-in-ukraine/

    The above are just a few examples -- proving that you know not of what you speak.
     
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    See, the "attacks" and "events" alleged were only after the rascists invaded eastern Ukraine and started perpetrating false flag attacks. Ukraine was doing just fine prior to that, and to date there is no evidence of Ukraine persecuting its own ethnic Russian and Russian-speaking population. It is as I said -- a lame excuse for this war that Putin started to try and annex Ukrainian territory into the Russian Federation. He thought he could take it all last year when he launched this latest invasion, too.

    Now tens of thousands are dead and millions displaced and suffering for his ambition. He has brought much more death and destruction to Ukraine than what is being alleged was committed by the Ukrainians in or before 2014.
     
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    Durandal .. I provided you with evidence and facts in support of the Persecution -- that these attacks happened after racists invaded Eastern Ukraine does not change the fact that these attacks were persecution -- War Crimes -- part of a program of Genocide.

    All you provide is slumping to the floor and blattering NO NO NO --- Congress refused funding to the Azov Nazi .. at a time when they were helping Ukraine build up their Military .. What part of "AZOV Neo Nazi Extremists" persecuting people is difficult for you to understand.. Shutting down Russian Language Schools -- telling the people to lose their culture or leave the Country.

    Those Tens of thousands dead and millions displaced because of Zelinski's and Biden's ambition .. is a sad reality .. as was are Genocide conducted by the Azov Nazi Terrorists. Beloved Vlad on the other side has been very careful not to injure Civilians .. a gentle Giant to be sure.
     
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    Exactly! Zalenskyy has been pleading for air power since last year. Seems as if any weapon that Ukraine asked for there was some unfounded and silly excuse against Ukraine getting it. Excuses were “Putin will not like that, it will expand the war, Ukrainians will not learn how to use it as if Ukrainians are dumb. Everything Ukrainian were trained for they learned quickly. Not to bad for dumb peasants.
     
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    Nope. You just posted a link to this ridiculous website: https://sarahwestall.com/

    Typical web wall of pro-Kremlin and pro-Trump, anti-Democratic and anti-Western extremist propaganda.
     
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    Well Good Golly Miss Molly ! -- what a delightfully comprehensible and sensible post (even if I may disagree with parts).. What did you do with Jack ? .. the normal pain in head that comes along with opening response is non existent .. never mind .. don't tell me .. lets forget all about it :)

    So Yeah -- 10-12 Brigades seems a very good estimate -- taking the high end.. they brought 30,000 ukrainian soldiers who had been training abroad back home thats 7.5 Brigades ~ 4000 men each just with that.. Well trained. Put together with some of the Home Boys and you have 40-50,000 men .. ready to go .. 700 armored vehicles

    "Big Stuff" ----They have some .. but not enough for anything sustained over long period of time .. so what ever the Plan .. needs to be focused -hit hard and fast.. Score some objective then try and hold it --- The first part is plausible - albeit need be the stuff of hollywood movie to pull off .. "Securing anything Good" .. the problem comes with holding it - avoiding another Bakhmut meat Grinder - which chewed up many of the ~ 200 to 400 thousand Ukrainian Soldier casualties so far.

    The initial "Probes" which was actually the start of the Offensive last week .. went really badly .. so badely even the Western media reported
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/08/politics/ukraine-forces-resistance/index.html

    Here is what the Russian MOD reported
    . https://tass.com/politics/1630355

    Now -- accounting for embellishment - which is almost certainly the case .. and dividing the Equipment losses by 2 thats 130 Armored vehicles destroyed in a week --- 750 armored Vehicles not going to last long at that rate of attrition ... even if it was 25% and the MOD is not that far off ..

    The Human capital .. same story .. Such loss rates can not be sustained for long.

    While I would hope that Ukraine will be able to get some temporary Air Defence up for the major Strike - it was apparently not present in these "Probes"

    On the other side .. you have hundreds of thousands of well rested and well trained troops .. more-over .. extremely well equiped .. plenty of Ammo .. Three layers of Defense .. these probes not able to penetrate even the outer layer sans a heavy cost .. and the penetration temporary in nature.

    Russia is Ready --- Nato better be finding a rabbit to pull out of their collective backside ..
    Russia’s improved weaponry and tactics pose challenges to Ukraine’s counteroffensive

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/...-pose-challenges-to-ukraines-counteroffensive
     
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    Nothing ridiculous about " a document that was produced by researchers within the OSCE (Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe) that outlines the serious crimes that have been taking place in the Donbass or Eastern region of Ukraine"

    The document is included in the link --- What is ridiculous is the desperate cry trying to label the "Organization for Security and Co-Operation in Europe" "pro-Kremlin and pro-Trump, anti-Democratic and anti-Western extremist propaganda"

    Your claim is just absurd Durandal -- once again with the completely unsupported made up blather >?

    Support this ridiculous claim of yours ..
     
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