Let me see if I have this right.

If trump is elected he's going to have RFK Jr. "go wild" on the US healthcare system.

Trump says he would let RFK Jr. 'go wild on medicines'
https://www.politico.com/video/2024...would-let-rfk-jr-go-wild-on-medicines-1466853

For the most part, Donald Trump has been mum on who he’d appoint to his administration if he wins.
But he has made one pretty clear promise: Trump has said he’ll let conspiracy theorist and vaccine skeptic Robert F. Kennedy Jr. “go wild” on health, food, and drug regulation. That could have massive consequences for public health and vaccine policy in America. If Kennedy were to completely get his way and deter vaccination, vaccine-preventable diseases like measles and polio could make a comeback.
https://www.vox.com/politics/381470/trump-rfk-cabinet-hhs-vaccines-health

Elon Musk, trump's future budget czar, says the country needs to brace for hardship, a metaphor for the economy needing to be crashed.

Elon Musk asks voters to brace for economic 'hardship,' deep spending cuts in potential Trump Cabinet role

“We have to reduce spending to live within our means,” Musk said. “And, you know, that necessarily involves some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long-term prosperity.”

Many economists agree that Trump’s economic and fiscal proposals could spark an economic calamity, though it is not clear whether they have considered, or given credence, to Musk’s calls for austerity.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/ec...-could-mean-hardship-for-americans-rcna177807

And the Orange Menace plans to suspend the constitutional rights of journalists and those suspected of breaking the law by prosecuting media critics and allowing law enforcement to really rough up criminals in retaliation for what they've done or accused of doing.

Trump says ‘violent day’ of policing will end crime
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/29/trump-violent-day-policing-crime-00181619

New Trump admin would try to prosecute journalists, former Trump adviser says
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/06/politics/kash-patel-trump-administration/index.html

If protests break out over journalists being jailed or economic "hardship" he's prepared to use the military to deal with it.

Trump suggests he’ll use the military on ‘the enemy from within’ the U.S. if he’s reelected
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...he-enemy-from-within-the-u-s-if-hes-reelected

During his first term as president, Donald Trump tested the limits of how he could use the military to achieve policy goals. If given a second term, the Republican and his allies are preparing to go much further, reimagining the military as an all-powerful tool to deploy on U.S. soil.

He has pledged to recall thousands of American troops from overseas and station them at the U.S. border with Mexico. He has explored using troops for domestic policy priorities such as deportations and confronting civil unrest. He has talked of weeding out military officers who are ideologically opposed to him.

Trump’s vision amounts to a potentially dramatic shift in the role of the military in U.S. society, carrying grave implications for both the country’s place in the world and the restraints that have traditionally been placed on domestic use of the military.

I find all this to be suboptimal. For trump supporters, it seems they have a choice to make. Vote for what he has promised, or believe he's lying about it.

Begging the question, if he's lying, if he doesn't plan on doing the things he says he is, what is his motivation for saying them?

 

What is the problem with the right that they seem unable to accept what is said as being what they plan on doing?
It seems as it they are desperate to not believe it could be possible.

 

Well, for starters read the post AND the articles. That's when you'll realize that the headline doesn't fit the story and the story isn't all that earth shattering anyway.

 

Why should I? My statement can stand on it's own.

 

IOW, the daily outrages of trumpery have been normalized.

 

That's what happens when there's an endless stream of propaganda with the sole purpose of getting trump.

If it was credible the reaction might be in line with your expectations.

 

Propaganda, hmmmmmmmmmmmm. The articles I cited make references to words that came out of trump's mouth. How is credible reporting on what he said "getting" him?

Are you one of the adoring trump fans who choose to take what he says seriously, or not, depending on what it is? How do you know which is which? He said the police should beat up a person who commits a crime. Was he serious? He said he's for the nutter, RFK's, idea of removing fluoride from drinking water and letting him "go wild" aspects of US healthcare. Joking? How is it propaganda to report on either one?

 

Every article you cited was written by a Scamala Harris surrogate. Funny how you forgot to mention this.

 

Your MO is to always disparage the source (none of which are surrogates for Harris) but never refute the info being reported. The one to which I am replying is no different.

Some economists and global policymakers were once big fans of “shock therapy” – a massive cutting of federal budgets among deeply indebted nations aimed at bringing their economies back to health. Surprisingly, these so-called austerity programs have had just the opposite effect. They have thrown economies into a tailspin, causing deep recessions and social upheaval.
Uses—and Abuses—of Austerity
https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2018/12/austerity-when-it-works-giavizzi-alesina-favero
Elon Musk and hedge fund manager John Paulson are calling for cuts to the U.S. budget if former President Donald Trump is re-elected and they join his cabinet.

Trump said he would create a government efficiency commission and that Musk would lead it, while Paulson is a possible contender for Treasury Secretary in a second Trump administration.

Both have both endorsed slashing budgets, with Musk this week calling for a $2 trillion reduction.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/30/ins...-us-budget-cuts-this-isnt-likely-to-work.html

 

Very likely that RFK Jr has requested some position like "Medication Czar", in which he gets to personally test medications for their hallucinogenic properties.

 

Everybody has made up their mind who they'll vote for at this point. And it's pretty much impossible to find somebody who votes for Trump who writes any sort of intelligent article. So don't worry about that.... Worry about the fact that they're RIGHT!

 

What did you expect? If it comes out of Trump's face orifice, it's fake news, propaganda, he really meant something else, you just don't understand because you're a "lefty" and only "righties" really know what's going on and what he means and it definitely doesn't mean what you think it means. The endless bullshit that comes from Trump worshipers is not worth discussing. They actually believe or pretend to believe there is always an alternate meaning to what Trump says and they will always manufacture that alternate meaning they think sounds reasonable (it never is). Trump tells us to our faces almost daily in many ways he will be a dictator if he's elected but they will tell you he wasn't a dictator his first term so why would he be one this time around?

"When somebody is President, the authority is total." - Donald Trump

 

The NYT has a front page article about undecided voters who finally made up their minds. A 77 year old man said he's voting for trump because he thinks Don will get inflation under control (it already is) and thinks trump will lower gas prices (he won't). While he's concerned trump will give Ukraine to Russia he apparently thinks it's more important to pay the lower gas prices he won't be paying.

The guy seems to have sincerely thought very hard about what to do yet reached an illogical, misinformed conclusion. My hope is there are more informed voters than misinformed ones but RWM has tried very hard to prevent that.

 

It was expected that Trump would win the uninformed vote. That's what a campaign based on fake nonsense seeks to accomplish.

 

The uninformed, shortsighted, and willfully misinformed vote. They'll all be voting for him.

 

Make all the jokes you want, everything RFK has said about the healthcare industry is true.
He has even drilled down to the level of GMOs and harmful additives and PREVENTATIVE medical approaches.
Lets not pretend we don't all know that big pharma controls the system and WANTS people to be sick so they can profit.
Why would you rip on a man that is against this kind of evil nonsense?

 

I agree and though he made many good points. But why on earth does he think the diet coke and KFC dude will pitch a fork with him?

 

Vaccine skepticism is the stock and trade of trump's adviser on medical policy in a potential new trump admin.

The Covid-19 vaccines were perhaps the greatest medical achievement of the 21st century. Completed in record time and extraordinarily safe, they built on 30 years of research into mRNA technology to deliver a tool that in its first year alone prevented an estimated 19.8 million deaths worldwide, and even more infections and hospitalizations. The vaccines, unlike masking and social distancing, required virtually no sacrifice from Americans: Just one or two shots protected people from the worst outcomes of the disease with few side effects. And as more people were vaccinated, society began to rebound from Covid, too.

Yet, tens of millions of Americans in the middle of the worst pandemic in a century took a look at the greatest scientific achievement of the modern age and said, in effect, “Thanks but no thanks.” While 68 percent of Americans got both initial doses of the vaccine, fewer than 50 percent went on to be boosted once, according to the CDC; an even smaller share has received a second booster. The failure to convince enough of the public to take up a tool developed specifically to prevent severe disease and death has blunted its ability to do just that.
https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2...tancy-politics-polarization-pandemic-mandates

 

Sorry, I don't know what that is in reference to but I know he has been known to say some things that are out there.

 

Of course, the main reason trump is cozying up to RFK is to appeal to Bob's supporters. Since nothing trump says can be trusted, there's no telling what role the nutter known as RFK will play in a potential admin. Erratic, reckless, impetuous behavior being a feature, not a bug, of trumpery.

 

And it has not been proven safe or effective.

 

I fear trump's ivermectin/hydroxychloroquine/disinfectant quackery, and RFK's nutbaggery on vaccines, combined with the rube's misinformed gullibility, makes for a toxic mix. The question is..........when it all goes badly..........who will trump pin the blame on now that Fauci is retired?

 

Well actually if you don't read the underlying articles it stands on BS.

 

You see?
Trump never said he wanted the police to "beat up a person who commits a crime" and he didn't say he wanted Liz Cheney shot in the face with 9 barrels. And he didn't say he was gonna be the life time dictator if he got back in the oval office.

Your third sentence (How is credible reporting on what he said "getting" him?) is a flat out lie, we don't get credible reporting on Trump. And we don't get credible reporting on brandon or harris either.

When I see these propaganda headlines I go to the video of whatever speech is referenced, and I listen to the whole thing, and then I judge and if I decide to blow up some post around here that is broadcasting propaganda I try to post the entire speech, not the carefully edited pablum fed to us by the media. Did you learn nothing from the Nancy Antoinette J6 star chamber professionally edited and produced prime time circus act? Still waiting for the terabytes of evidence the star chamber bunch buried and destroyed once their production had aired.

 

If you have a point you don't seem to what to say what it is. Why?