Let's be clear on one thing about Trump's assassination attempt...

Maybe a small part of Trump's ego? Not much, though. If this had been any other person, they would have been asking if anybody else was hurt. I might have missed it, but I haven't heard Trump do that yet. I was on vacations so I didn't follow the news as closely as usual. But I expect he'll be attending the funeral of the follower that was killed, right?

 

Let nobody be confused. The fact that it was a despicable act does not make Trump himself any more palatable than he was before.

This thread is just a statement about reality: 1- We DON'T choose who governs us by murdering the other candidates.. 2- We DO choose them based on other things. Such as them not being a convicted felon and a judicially adjudicated sexual abuser.

NONE of the above has changed or should EVER change.

 

Instead let’s impugn and attack (baselessly)

 

Other people in the audience but Biden called the families to offer condolences before trump did

 

Yep, one person was killed and two more seriously wounded. Your statement about the only thing being lost was Trumps ear was grossly inaccurate in order to commit a gross downplaying of the event.

And all you have to counter my assessment of Jan 6 is blanket denial. Thoroughly uncompelling.

 

Loss of life is terrible. And if you want to start a thread focusing on the mass shooting at a Trump rally with a military-style weapon, be my guest . I'll be more than happy to share my comments about how this is yet another consequence of the HORRIBLE Heller legislation passed by the Supreme Court. But THIS thread is specifically about the political implications of the shooting.

Not sure what "denial" you're talking about. You appear to want to focus on mass shootings. And that's a fair subject, but not the topic of this thread. January 6 might not have been a mass shooting, like this one was. So the episodes might not be comparable from that point of view. But it was, as I described, another attempt to overthrow our democratic system.

 

Irrelevant observation. Trump got shot Saturday and called Monday. His campaign has helped raise at least 5 million for the families. Nothing wrong with any of that.

 

You brought up Jan 6th in your OP buddy. Don’t make a comparison and complain when others dispute your lousy comparison.

 

What does that have to do with his comments and his own standards?

 

January 6th, YES. Mass shooting with an assault rifle, NO!

What part are you not understanding? Open a thread about the mass shooting, if that's what you want to talk about that. Don't be shy! In fact, let me know if you do. I will be MORE than happy to comment about that too.

 

Within 36 hours, five people died: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three died of natural causes, including a police officer.

OK , so the only person who died actually related to the event was a right wing protestor.

 

I’m confused. What part of anything I’ve said has nothing to do with what you’ve said?

seems just wild flailing as deflection on your part.

 

Five people would have more likely than not been alive today if it hadn't been for January 6. Different topic, though. It has been amply debated in threads about the subject.

 

What part are you not understanding? This thread is about the assassination attempt as a threat to democracy. Comparable to another violent threat to democracy: January 6. You apparently wanted to shift the topic to introduce the fact that it was also a mass shooting with an assault weapon. A very worthwhile approach.... just not the topic of this thread.

 

Nope, never said anything about mass shootings which this assassination attempt doesn’t even qualify as, nor did I mention assault weapons.

only thing I’ve been talking about is your terrible comparison to Jan 6th and your downplaying of the assassination attempt to completely ignore those who got shot in order to support your phony comparison.

That’s it buddy. Nothing off topic whatsoever. You appear to be very confused

 

Except the only shooting death was a protester. Another protester was beaten to death. The rest of your "thinking" comprises brain farts. Nice try on the Trump reference.

 

Yes! The others who got shot make it a mass shooting. God! You didn't know that?

This thread is not about the other victims of the mass shooting. It's about the shooting of Trump. The purpose is to make it clear that even those of us who oppose Trump understand the political implications. Talking about others would make it about.... just another mass shooting. Of which there are thousands every year in this country.

Not intended as an attack, but paying more attention might avoid derailing the thread. And you are more than welcome to open a thread about that topic, if you want. I'll be eager to participate.

 

The problem is you, yet again, have no idea what you’re talking about.

https://eden.cce.cornell.edu/security/mass-shootings/

Did 4 or more people die? Why no, no they didn’t. Not a mass shooting. Please learn things

honestly, I think you above any other poster refuses to know or research any definitions of anything. I understand it’s the Democratic way to talk about things they don’t know anything about, but you are the living embodiment of it.

So let me get this straight, if you say the only thing that happened was Trump lost an ear, and I say that’s wrong because other people got shot that’s off topic to you?

What a ridiculous joke. Newsflash: you put Jan 6th as a comparison in your OP so don’t off topic yourself next time if you don’t want people talking about your lousy comparisons not to mention lousy understanding of word definitions.

Want this thread to only be about Trump? Stop talking about other things in your OP! DUH!!!!

 

You are saying an event where a gun was used to intentionally try to murder a former president is comparable to an event where no guns were used?

 

I applaud the fact that FINALLY you have decided to try to do research. I guess my sig is starting to pay off. However, one aspiect you missed is that, when you throw in a link, you must QUOTE the part that is relevant.

I'll give you an example. If I throw in a link to the LEGAL definition of a term.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/definit...hapter:101:subchapter:XI:part:A:section:10281

I must quote the RELEVANT part. Not the whole thing. Just the relevant part. Thus....

mass shooting
(1) Definitions In this section: (A) Mass casualty event The term “mass casualty event” means an incident resulting in casualties to not fewer than 3 victims, including (i)[...] (ii) an incident that results in a sudden and timely surge of injured individuals necessitating emergency services...
[bold added to highlight]​

What the hell are you talking about? I use the word ONLY very very sparingly. QUOTE!!!

Now you are just desperately making up B.S. It IS the "ONLY" (and now I use it on purpose) thing relevant to this thread regarding the shootings themselves.

Not trying to demean you. I'm just pointing out how to raise the level of the debates. But maybe before trying to learn how to do research, you should try making sure you understand what it is you're responding to. And not participate in the thread until you are sure you do.

Please keep this in mind if you decide to open a thread about the mass shooting with an assault weapon.

 

Yes! Even though guns were used, that is not the relevant part. The OP explains in what sense they are comparable. Do you have anything to comment about that?

I do appreciate the fact that the "ear-event" was also a mass shooting carried out with an assault weapon. But that can be discussed in other threads.

 

I was pointing out the hypocrisy of Trump supporters.

A school shooting happens, lots of thoughts and prayers, no actual action.
Someone takes a shot at Trump all of sudden we have calls for Congressional hearings and the cries of how this is all Biden's fault.

 

Looks like you live in the 60s

 

Still looks to me simply like mental illness. I suspect Crook would have been looking to shoot anyone he viewed as famous and powerful that happened to come to his area. Just happened to be Trump. No way to be sure of course, but I don't think Crook was trying to 'decide' anything other than 'pay attention to me!!'

 

Born in 1956. Lived the best years America had to offer. I asked my country what I could do. So I served for 20 years. Bye bye comrade.