Life Sentence for Being Gay in Uganda

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  1. carloslebaron

    carloslebaron New Member

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    Uganda is doing what is the best for them, trying to eliminate the presence of homosexuals perverting young teenagers from their society. The US must follow that example looking for restoring human dignity in our society.

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    The only interpretation that homosexuality is an abomination to God is that homosexuality is indeed an abomination to God.
     
  2. ProgressivePatriot

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    The perversion that I see are in people like you. You are a loathsome and despicable excuse for a sub human being. If there is a God and you someday meet her, you might be in for a rude awakening
     
  3. carloslebaron

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    Hey, what homosexuals do is playing with excrement. Adopted children by gay couples make complaints that their parents room smells like doo doo when they have sex... come on, if you want the rest of people to like what homosexuals do or to ignore what they are doing... forget it...
     
  4. ProgressivePatriot

    ProgressivePatriot Well-Known Member

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    I see....so instead of replying to my post, you write this ignorant clap trap and avoid the issue that I raised. Fine with me.
     
  5. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You see there you go presenting the anti gay myths instead of reality.

    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/winter/10-myths

    Now I accept that you yourself were unaware of the truth when you were spreading dishonest things about gays. Now that you have been educated on this I trust we will not be seeing you saying it again as that would be a deliberate lie.

    What is equally concerning is that you omit the reality that these wrong impressions are deliberately being fed to African's through bribery by US associations such as the IRD and the Christian Right, to African, for instance Uganda's, political and religious leaders and through financially gaining a stronghold on their education and bible study including through such means as television empires of Christian Broadcasting Network and Trinity Broadcasting Network which broadcast throughout Africa.



    Well that certainly is the hope of the neo Cons and the US Conservative Christian Right. Having managed to gain a monopoly in Africa over these 'neo colonial' Progressive Christians who worked for African Liberation contrary to what the Christian Right did, having used Uganda and other African countries as proxy's in your cultural war, you hope to use the power of the numbers in Africa and change Christianity and bring that back to the US.

    Only things is lies and bigotry only show up the 'sins' of those who do them.
     
  6. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Or in the case of Uganda, their colonial masters. From the Penal Code act of 1950

    Section 145
    Unnatural offences

    Any person who
    (a) has carnal knowledge of any person against the order of nature;
    (b) has carnal knowledge of an animal; or
    (c) permits a male person to have carnal knowledge of him or her against the order of nature, commits an offence and is liable to imprisonment for life.
     
  7. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You continued spamming/trolling has been reported again.
     
  8. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Truth??? What nonsense, to classify someone who self identifies as a homosexual as not actually being a homosexual isn't truth. We never heard of this alternate sexual orientation of pedophile, until so called science tried to explain the higher incidence of gay men molesting children. Homosexuals are those who are attracted to the same sex, of any age.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    No need to fear the truth.
     
  10. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not killing Christians, killing those who initiate force against you. The state of Uganda has no right to the land it has declared its own, some men writing scribbles down on a piece of paper does not change moral action. The moral action when faced with being caged like an animal, or slaughtered like a dog, for voluntary interaction, is to retaliate with lethal force. I don't care if men with special badges do it, if a common mugger does it, nor if Christians or Muslims do it, irrespective of who they are, they have initiating force on and have invited retaliatory force in response.

    Unfortunately, men with special badges rarely leave you alone if you ask them politely. They will follow you until their you're dead, or they are. Consequently, lethal force becomes the only viable option.
     
  11. dixon76710

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    I was right. The bill hasn't yet become law. Currently homosexual behavior is punishable by life sentence under the Penal code act of 1950, adopted by Uganda after independence.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/...veni-wont-be-pressured-to-sign-anti-lgbt-law/
     
  12. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That was not what was said and you know it. You obviously have trouble reading and understanding intellectual material. I will give you it again.

    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/winter/10-myths
    You have long heard the truth of the situation. That is clear. You are just a very sick man who wishes for his own agenda to ignore reality in order to try and spread hatred of homosexuals and by so doing cause them to be harmed or killed..

    Maybe the first person was uneducated. You however were just lying in the most pathetic attempt to cling on to your hateful fantasy - one which your brothers have been deliberately using to fool the people of Uganda and leading to hate and murder of gays as is shown here

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=246093&p=1061174941#post1061174941



    Now this is a debate forum, not one for helping people who are unable to deal with academic work and instead deal in their perverted fantasy's. I am retired. You are on ignore.
     
  13. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Ill pull out the part you are missing.

    "Groth found that there are two types of child molesters: fixated and regressive. The fixated child molester — the stereotypical pedophile — cannot be considered homosexual or heterosexual"

    They simply are classifying homosexuals who molest boys as not actually having a homosexual orientation but instead a new, alternate sexual orientation of pedophile.
     
  14. SFJEFF

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    Prostitution or sex with underage minors- yes the men should be prosecuted regardless of the gender of the victim.
     
  15. SFJEFF

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    Which African tribal culture dixon?

    And how does that change the fact that yes heterosexuals are 'always targeting young adolescents to have sex with'?

    http://chimpreports.com/index.php/people/11171-uganda-faces-prostitution-explosion.html

    The survey report released recently by the UYDEL, a nongovernmental organization commissioned by the government indicates that many young girls below the age of 18 have been forced into prostitution by ambitious businessmen. These people travel to the various rural areas around the country under the guise of getting nice jobs for these children in the city, and bring them to town to force them into prostitution. In the process of sleeping with mature men to get money, most of these girls end up acquiring HIV AIDS which has greatly increased among the youth. - See more at: http://chimpreports.com/index.php/p...stitution-explosion.html#sthash.ol8lUjQr.dpuf


    If the concern was in anyway about underage minors- why do they not care about the girls?
     
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    No it doesn't. The homophobic bigots often will attack homosexuals with the claim that homosexuality is 'not natural' and of course there are lots of examples of homosexuality in nature. That is not the argument of why people should be allowed to love one another- it answers the stupid argument of 'its not natural'

    I thought they based them on the basic concept of human rights

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    What part of 'equal', 'liberty' and the 'pursuit of happiness' do you object to?
     
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    Having sex with either underage boys or girls is sexual abuse.

    Your anti-homosexual bias is showing.

    Like I said- this law has nothing to do with protecting the 'youth' of Uganda- it is about attacking homosexuals. If it was about protecting the youth- it would be focused on the youth-

    http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/9/233/581946
    12,000 child prostitutes in Uganda
    EIGHT girls aged 11-15 are roughly ushered into Gulu Police Station, at around 5:00pm, on a cold evening. There is a mixture of hatred, anger and nervousness on their faces. It is surprising why these girls, at their age, should be dragged to a police station. Surprisingly, all of them have been rounded up, on charges of prostitution.

    Child prostitution, according to the UN, is: “…the sexual exploitation of a child for remuneration in cash or in kind, usually, but not always organised by an intermediary…” Ugandan laws prohibit prostitution and having sex with an under-18 girl.

    The Gulu Police Commander, Yasin Ndimwibo, says these girls were seen in the company of much older men who were not their relatives. “This, unfortunately, is not the first time some of these girls have been arrested for prostitution,” he says, pointing to a girl seated with her head propped up in her hands.
     
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    natural selection for propagation proves you wrong............. These things which you so weakly portray equal, you are not my equal, liberty doesn't mean you can have sex like animals, and liberty is the Right to own property.....the Pursuit of happiness doesn't apply to sex.............haven't read much about the founding father's statements about your Bill of Rights, have you?
     
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    No it doesn't. The homophobic bigots often will attack homosexuals with the claim that homosexuality is 'not natural' and of course there are lots of examples of homosexuality in nature. That is not the argument of why people should be allowed to love one another- it answers the stupid argument of 'its not natural'

    I thought they based them on the basic concept of human rights

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    What part of 'equal', 'liberty' and the 'pursuit of happiness' do you object to?
     
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    so much for trying to be honest with a heterophobe............
     
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    But this is about the bible. The law in that country, at least as far as homosexual activity is concerned, is based on biblical teachings.
    If you argue with their right to believe in that, you're restricting their right to freedom of religion.
     
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    The state of America has no right to the land it rules, less so that Uganda as America was stolen by massacre of the Indians.
    If you use that argument, 9/11 was justified as it was retaliation against American interference, attacks and supporting murderous states in or around Arabic countries.

    To morals, they consider it immoral to have gay sex; why are your morals better than theirs?
     
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    They can BELIEVE whatever the hell they want. I'm questioning their right to VIOLATE human rights based on superstition and dogma
     
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    http://www.createdgay.com/lev

    There you go, a direct quote explaining how active homosexuals should be killed.
    The thread is about Uganda's Christian based laws, nothing else. The fact many Christians ignore their bible is not of any concern as far as this thread is concerned.

    To Indonesia, no, there is no law I'm aware of or care about that allows the death penalty for bum bonking.

    However, you've just accused me of inciting murder so I'd like you to quote the post where I do so or apologise for your lie.
     
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    LOL....as a husband for over 20 years and a father....I am fairly comfortable with my heterosexuality- I am just not threatened by someone else's sexual preference.
     

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