Looking at the claims about hospitalizations and the unvaccinated

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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We've been repeatedly told things like "98 percent of hospitalizations are unvaccinated", but is this type of talk really true?

    To get a better picture of this, I think it is better to look at a country like Singapore, which would be less likely to be biased political narratives.


    Mr Ong said that overall, about 70 per cent of seniors aged 70 and above were vaccinated while more than 85 per cent of those between 60 and 69 years old had received their two vaccine doses. ​

    Covid-19: Half of Singapore’s population fully vaccinated, but 200,000 seniors still yet to get jabs - TODAY (todayonline.com) July 20, 2021


    In Singapore, vaccinated people made up three-quarters of recent Covid-19 cases, but few fell ill | South China Morning Post (scmp.com)


    Singapore - The Ministry of Health on September 6, 2021 confirmed 241 new COVID-19 cases in Singapore, taking the country's total case count to 68,901.

    Of them, 235 are locally transmitted, including 110 unlinked infections. Among the cases are six patients above the age of 70 who are unvaccinated or partially vaccinated, and are at risk of serious illness, said the Ministry of Health.

    At least 66,600 cases in Singapore, or over 99 per cent of the overall total, have fully recovered from their infection and have been discharged from the hospital.

    As of Sunday, 653 cases are currently warded, most of whom are well and under observation.

    There are currently 24 cases of serious illness requiring oxygen supplementation and five in critical condition in the intensive care unit (ICU).

    Of those who have fallen very ill, 22 are patients above the age of 60, of whom 11 are completely unvaccinated or partially vaccinated, said the Ministry.

    Six cases are imported, of whom four were detected upon their arrival here while one developed symptoms during their stay-home notice or isolation period.​

    241 new COVID cases in Singapore, including 110 unlinked (msn.com)

    So out of 235 cases of infections, and only looking at the 70-and-above age category, only 6 of them were unvaccinated!

    (In 2020, residents aged 65 years and above made up 15.2 percent of the total resident population in Singapore.
    15.2 percent of 235 comes out to about 35.7 , so we can still see that very few of them were unvaccinated)

    Do you notice anything here? Only 6 out of maybe 30 or 35 elderly hospitalization cases were unvaccinated, but 70% of elderly people in this country were vaccinated.
    From these statistics, it's definitely not looking like vaccination offers a protective effect for the elderly against requiring hospitalization.

    22 out of the 24 cases where people got very sick were over the age of 60.
    This is equivalent to 91.6%.


    "Seventy-eight percent of hospitalizations due to COVID are Obese and Overweight people" in the US​

    Hospitalization rate for unvaccinated teens 10 times the rate for those vaccinated, CDC says - The Washington Post

    So it seems the clear majority of hospitalizations are either unhealthily fat people, or old people, or both.
    An individual's preexisting state of health will make an enormous impact on the probability of them needing to be hospitalized if they catch the virus.


    60% of people being admitted to UK hospitals are unvaccinated - adviser | Reuters

    Scotland and Wales have vaccinated 90% of those aged 16 and over with at least one dose, while England has reached 88% and Northern Ireland 86%.​

    Covid vaccine: How many people in the UK have been vaccinated so far? - BBC News

    Assuming these statistics in the UK are true, from these figures we could estimate that the vaccinated are approximately 80% less likely to require admission to a hospital.

    But here's something to think about. Why would only 60% of UK hospitalizations be unvaccinated, when we have heard repeated claims in the US that it is 97 or 98%?
    Does that put some of the claims in the US in doubt?
     
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    Mr. Kaze.....

    Please quote me one DeSantis Health/Republican Official who has questioned the accuracy of Florida’s Hospital Association daily/weekly report on their percentages of both vaccinated and unvaccinated hospitalized patients......Good luck!

    Note; The only ones who have questioned FHA’s accuracy are the conspiracy shitters on the site, and one phoook up Nurse name Nicole Whitley.
     
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