Macedonia Urged to Solve “Name” Dispute

shhh they might feel themselves offended (sarcasm)
now seriously, as much Albos and other Islamists are guilty for their misery they are guilty for Albos and other Islamists misery (but that's secret they already 'suffer' too much)

 

So what? You listed them as Albanians, not me. Ok?
Skadar...They can be Montenegrin, or just 'Slavic' if you wish, as well.

 

Poll Reveals Support for 'Greater Albania'
17 Nov 2010 / 13:55
The poll, conducted by Gallup in cooperation with the European Fund for the Balkans, showed that 62 per cent of respondents in Albania, 81 per cent in Kosovo and 51.9 per cent of respondents in Macedonia supported the formation of a Greater Albania.

The vast majority of respondents, over 95 per cent overall in the three countries, said that if such a Greater Albania was created, it should include Albania, Kosovo and part of Macedonia.
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/survey-greater-albania-remains-popular

It's not about schools, it's not about lifestyle...they simply won't integrate, stop dreaming.

Overwhelming majority of Albanians are Muslims, especially in troublesome areas.

 

Funny like 'hell'

 

I think that you implied on Slavic first, and they are Albanian obviously, and origin (slavic or ilyrian) is way too deep to discuss because as much as they contain ilyrian origin so do you and so do I and as much as you contain slavic origin so do they and so do I. Orientation on Slavs and Ilyrians was and is still propaganda of 'unification' which basically divides
Btw. just Slavic implies on ignorance and calling you Slav for example equals to telling to Turk that heshe has pure Turkic(!) origin-which is totally impossible.

 

Ok, can I ask a question?
Why do you post me already known fact? As if I don't know the phenomenom of 'Greater Albania' and how much will it be supported?!
I myself in very 1st post declared that for Macedonia's well being, support from native Albanian population on it's international field would be 'cool'. For no reason you're proving me that:

1. majority of Albanians are against and that they are 4 creation of Greater Albania (which is actually Great Albania-Sqiperia e madhe)
2.that majority of Albanians in general are Muslims, when I'm talking about Christian Albanians and their number which is smaller than nr. of Muslims but significant. It is not ratio of 3% Christ.Albanians and 97% of Muslims but we speak about 30% of Christians in GENERAL and 70% of Muslims even though vast majority of Albanians don't follow the religion that much

-----> So for no reason you're proving and insisting on what I already know and if you haven't noticed so far I speak about: what would be if ...

 

I guess im on Macedonias side just because Id be pretty upset if someone told us to change the name of Albania. But im not really looking for an arguement so im probably just gong to watch this play out from the side because I really dont have a strong opinion on this subject. My mind can easily be swayed at this time.

 

We're not on a private chatline and I write facts relevant to this specific discussion.

Let's see 'What would be IF...'

Nothing would change (actually due to Greek/Albanian 'silent' (to this board) conflict, it would introduce only problems) and as we all know, name dispute went too far.

IMHO, the best and rational solution would be 'Northern Macedonia' -geographically speaking it's much needed to make it distinctive from the rest of the Macedonia region (Greeks would most probably accept it) and it would still allow people of now 'Northern Macedonia' to call them selves Macedonians. After this it would take at least decade for tensions to ease up...

Personally, I really care for both nations in this dispute and wish them to find a solution acceptable to all ASAP.

 

There is no nation in the world which should be named in such a manner that everybody else but that particular nation to be happy. The name of any country is a sovereign right of its citizens. You do care about the Greek feelings but can you think if we are not happy with the name of your native country and because of that we ask to change to Moravian Serbia or Balkan Serbia or what about if the name Serbia is not acceptable as a part of any combination? Changing the name is the first step to our nullification as a nation. Northern Macedonian would make sense if there is South Macedonia, but in the south there is no South Macedonia, we are bordering Greece which denies that Macedonians as a separate nation ever existed. What in that situation you are expecting from us?? Just to give up our struggle for national affirmation only because the wold is expecting us to please the Greeks?

 

I do care about the feelings of both nations... After Kosovo and Republika Srpska, there's nothing more worrisome to me, but the political conflict between you guys.
I believe the imperative should be on a hard work, discipline and economic progress which would on the long run secure our strong positions in the region.

 

You are ignorant or you are pretending to be. For more information you can see:
http://jebadel.com/visionsoftomorrow/?p=39

“The first UN mediator for the name dispute, Robin O’Neil, said that “Macedonia must not and will not change its name in order to appease Greece. If Macedonia succumbs to pressures and changes its name, such events will only give more firepower to Greece until it reaches its final goal – Macedonia to vanish from the map.””

or watch MEP Deva: "No one takes Greece seriously"
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOIdShUBHBU"]MEP Deva: "No one takes Greece seriously" - YouTube[/ame]

 

Ok, I've no time right now to type further, but please, elaborate on the quoted above, in bold.

 

The whole Greek fame about Glorious Ancient History had been made up by the Europeans as a movie script to invent hero. But Greece as a country for the fist time in history was established some time about 1830. Before that you go 2000 or more back in History you have some City States like Athens, Sparta, Troy and so on but not Greece not Hellass? You will find Macedonia as a state and the Macedonians as a nation who enslaved the Greeks of the City States. That is a fact which Greece does not like to be accepted by the wold who invented the Greek Mighty History. So Greece will do anything in her power to make the Republic of Macedonia vanish from the map.

 

You know, I was wondering why didn't Macedonian team pressure Greeks to accept your conditions and proposals for simple fact that issues that Greeks in general are facing today are huge in comparison to issue with Macedonia. That would be perfect timing but basically you guys proved to be either too good people or too clumsy

 

The present financial troubles of Greece will go away but they know that if they lose the battle regarding our name they will lose a great deal of regard which the world pays for them. And then will come the question why they do not respect the human rights of the Macedonians in Aegean Macedonia under occupation since 1912. The Serbian occupied portion of Macedonia was allowed to be independent Macedonian state, and why Bulgaria and Greece are still holing the other two parts and constantly denying the Macedonian national identity????

 

Just make sure while you hold that guard and looking South to keep your eye on everything and everyone 'cause one day you may wake up and find there's nothing to fight for anymore.

 

We the Macedonians are victims of the global games regardless what we think, what we do and where we look. We can the best only hope that we will have a better role in the future global game scenario.

A little bit Macedonian music.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiRzuJ-njZE&feature=channel_video_title"]Калиопи и кошаркарите - Едно име имаме - YouTube[/ame]

 

Greece has important things to focus on instead of other nations' names and territories.

 

macedonia is a joke - i can see montenegro because of the access to the sea

 

If you like jokes read Greek history books thy are filled with jokes. But if you want to know what Macedonia is and who Macedonians are do not hesitate to talk to the Macedonians. I try not to believe that you personality is so bead. Macedonia may look like a joke considering the size but commenting is such a way is not acceptable.