Maple Leaf Foods Confirms System Outage Linked to Cybersecurity Incident...Why?

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Are many of the disasters of 2022 done to prepare us to accept the Biden Digital Currency?

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  1. DennisTate

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    Why would arsonists attack food processing facilities in the USA and then why would hackers attack the databases for food processing facilities here in Canada?

    I suspect that Mr. Jim Rickards may have offered the best explanation for this.

    Americans and Canadians need to be desperate enough to give up many of our freedoms for us to be properly prepared to accept the Biden Digital Currency!


    Maple Leaf Foods Confirms System Outage Linked to Cybersecurity Incident






     
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    Asking "why" assumes you know the who.

    This is how conspiracy theories work.

    How about you figure out the how and who using evidence.
     
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    The evidence is getting more and more clear that high level political leaders are not on the side of the average Canadian and / or American citizen!

    Do Biden's advisors and Trudeau's advisors seem to want to crash the markets?



    After teaching English as a second language in Quito, Ecuador and seeing poverty with my own eyes, I returned home to Nova Scotia determined to be more socially and politically active. Losing elections is actually a rather fun hobby..... .and it tends to decrease the feeling of guilt that I would have if I did or said nothing about what I feel is truly wrong at the highest levels of political and economic influence.

    www.BankingSystemFlaws.blogspot.com/


    www.BankingSystemsFlaws.blogspot.ca/


     
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    None of that is evidence about who hacked the food company.
     
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    Ahhh Dennis, you really need to stop looking for and worse, reading, these type of blog feeds...
     
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    Do a search for the number of food processing facilities in the USA that got hit by arsonists over these past three years?

    The numbers are high!

    In the USA with ten times the population of Canada the people who want an economic crisis can arrange to get food processing facilities literally destroyed but.......
    here in Canada the people who would be willing to set fire to a food processing facility might get caught......
    and might spill the beans so......... a cyber attack is more logical!

    What Jim Rickards told us back in 2014 was insightful and brilliant and I do believe that he has done this again in 2022!!!!

    I consider him to be in the top ten economists on earth at this time!
     
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    A high number of arsons only proves that there have been a high number of arsons.
     
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    Technically you are correct.....
    but this is political forum .com not The New York Times so the standard that we are held to here is somewhat lower!
     
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    What do you think of this calibre of journalism?

    At minimum this is on a whole other level than CNN isn't it?

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/c-food-shortage


    ‘Setting the Table for Famine’—Michael Yon on the Energy Crisis, Food Shortages, Price Inflation, and the Human ‘South-Stream Pipeline’ to the US


    https://www.theepochtimes.com/i-cou...sident-of-cattlemens-association_4684767.html


    Nitrogen Agenda’ Used by Globalists to Take Land: Farmer Faces Having to Cull 95 Percent of His Cows | Facts Matter


    Actually... Rex Murphy, in my opinion gets to the heart and core of what is really happening here in Canada.....

    Rex Murphy: In Defence of the West: Smith Takes a Stand Against Ottawa’s Allegiance to a Globalist Agenda


     
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    My guess is that your day job might just be lawyer!

    I am indeed honoured to get to debate these topics with somebody capable of playing in the major leagues when it comes to the legalities of what has probably been set up over these past twenty years...... .but I suspect that all of this goes back to the writings of Thomas Robert Malthus in 1798!

    Malthus was a rather brilliant Anglican / Episcopalian Theologian and he understood the sheer brilliance in a statement made by Moses......
    BUT MALTHUS WAS A PESSIMIST...... and rather dogmatic in his negative and dark understanding of this verse.......
    but he was brilliant and his "disciples" although perhaps somewhat sincere.....
    are far too pessimistic and they seem to have set up America, Israel, Canada, Australia and all the world for an economic disaster.......
    and they are likely doing so in an attempt to save the environment from us humans...... because we are off the scale productive but....... our productivity can result in far too many cases of a paradise being turned into parking lots..........

    I am living in Mississauga, Ontario,Canada right now.....
    and I hate to admit it.... but the Economic Experiment that is Mississauga...... adds some weight to the theories of Thomas Robert Malthus... and especially to Neo Malthusian thought which evolved from his original idea of Malthusian Catastrophe.


    Was Moses - Moshe a brilliant economist?

    "And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
    And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." (Genesis 11)


    Is it true that human productive capability is virtually without any limitations IF WE CAN AGREE ON THE NEED FOR A PROJECT.... AND IF WE WILL TROUBLE SHOOT AND DISCUSS HOW TO ACCOMPLISH A PARTICULAR GOAL???????????????


    Let's play around with the goal of turning deserts green in the Islamic nations as was predicted by an Islamic Mystic over a thousand years ago!


    Book 005, Number 2208:
    "Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers."
    SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)



    New Mexico biologist and coach Carl Cantrell's theory adds some weight to this ancient Islamic prediction.....


    My two somewhat humorous submissions for $25 million Virgin Earth Challenge.






    How to green the world's deserts and reverse climate change | Allan Savory

     
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    The Epoch times is owned by a Chinese religious cult bro, digest with MSG...
     
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    You also think Above Alpha is a CIA operative, military genius, master diver, top-flight athlete and quantum physicist. You posted on this forum you think Mar-A-Lardo should be crowned king of Israel. I suggest that your judgement of people is deeply flawed.

    As to Rickard's 'predictions', the NSA can already watch your computer, you're being watches in every major store you enter and often there's footage of you on public roads.

    As far as replacing paper money with digital money, it's a difference without a real distinction. The government already knows where my money is and how much I've got. The bank keeps track of it on a computer. My money is already digital. Yours too if you don't stuff it into your mattress or bury it in your backyard. This is a classic tempest in a teapot.
     
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    You could be correct.....
    my ability to psychologically profile writers on political forum and / or American political leaders could be less than brilliant ..... but......
    the situation that we are in is kind of scary and the Jim Rickards documentary that I believe is disguised as being merely an infomercial...... is brilliant......
    and perhaps one of the best explanation for what is really happening at this time that I have been able to find so far?!

    I could be wrong....( and I would actually love to be incorrect ) ... .but the
    cyber attack on Maple Leaf Meats and on so many other big companies over these past three years seems like they could well be acts of economic terrorism......
    and anybody who has studied a lot of history could be reminded of the Russian Revolution of a hundred and five years ago........ or the takeover of China by Mao.... or more recently the events in Venezuela??????
     
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    I am actually a rather big fan of the Falun Gong "religious cult" of China......
    their belief in something similar to the Gilgul Cycle of Judaism is actually rather impressive to me!

    I plead guilty... I am a fan of Dr. Ian Stevenson.....
    so I am biased.....


    If members of the Falun Gong in other nations have decided to create The Epoch Times to attempt to fight back against the Communist Party of China then..... as far as I am concerned.... that is a brilliant move on their part!

    China Killing Prisoners To Harvest Organs For Transplant, Tribunal Finds



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    Cyber attacks on meat plants have little to nothing to do with digital currency. In fact, using computers to attack facilities would be a strong argument against a digital currency because it relies on the internet. I would rate the probability of a government using this method to induce a crisis that somehow leads to digital currency as vanishingly small. In truth, I don't see how food insecurity would lead to digital currency at all. It might lead to a price rise which would then lead to inflation I guess, but it wouldn't matter whether the money was paper or electronic. The media used would not change the value. It would still all be fiat money - essentially a promise by the government that it's worth something.

    If this truly bothers you, invest in real estate; they're not making any more of it. Meantime, a dollar is a dollar whether it's folded up in your wallet or a bunch of electrons spinning around in a computer somewhere.
     
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    It would be wonderful if we lived in a world where your opinion on all this was correct but.....
    I believe that there are influential people who still want to crack the whip and humble the commoners......
    and by commoners I mean people who own their own companies........

    I believe that there are people who want a certain percentage of businesses to go bankrupt based on what they have been doing since 2019.....

    This is not the first time that something like this happened and we can learn a lot from the two decades after President Abraham Lincoln was assassinated.....


    https://famguardian.org/Publications/InThisAgeOfPlenty/plenty49.htm

    I am rather optimistic at this time though and I would point to what happened to force FDR and his advisors into enacting The New Deal.....
    I believe that all high level managers in all companies should be considering how FDR was forced into what he would not ordinarily have wanted to do!

    http://www.whatcomwatch.org/php/WW_open.php?id=717

    Companies could turn one or more of their stores into a STAGE and set in motion a film series designed to get white collar workers and blue collar workers working on problems that we have in common...............
    ....... all of us are negatively impacted by corruption and dishonesty at very high levels of influence..... especially over BigMedia and over elected officials who are all too easily corrupted.

    For the record... I am disappointed with the people who term themselves "conservative" in both the USA and Canada... I think that we are missing the point of what we should learn from our history.

    Your theology and a Basic Minimum Income?



     
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    You don't think the south losing millions of people's free labor caused business to go under? That didn't impact businesses all over the country? It had to be a banker conspiracy?
     
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    Let me ensure I've got your premise straight.You think that someone attacked Maple leaf foods in order to induce a food crisis. This food crisis would somehow bring about a digital currency. Digital currency will somehow bankrupt small businesses and indeed, that's the purpose of the cyber attack. Is that it? You're going to have to connect those dots a little better. This plot has more holes than substance.

    This article contains several errors of fact. For instance The US declared war on England in the War of 1812, not the other way around. It also contains errors of logic. How could Greenbacks be destroyed when they came back to the Treasury in payment of taxes when the article specifically states they couldn't be used to pay taxes?

    Apparently you think this scrip was issued by the people. It wasn't. It was issued by local governments and banks. Those are the very people you accuse of causing small business bankruptcies. Now you want us to think that the problem and the solution are the same.

    Excuse me? Are you really proposing that businesses produce political propaganda films for their employees?

    I don't think you're taking the proper lessons from history. In fact, I don't think you're reading proper history.
     
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    Wow!!!!!!

    These are some of the most insightful questions that I have ever been asked here on political forum, (with the exception of the questions by the brilliant @AboveAlpha of course though)!!!!

    Thank you!!!!!!!

    Actually.... what I am thinking is that we are in the worst mess that the world has been in since the 1930's in many ways.......
    I suspect that China is going all out with their version of the Economic aspect of WWIII, they want to take over... . and they have moved far, far, far, far too quickly.......
    and I believe that China and all people working with China in the USA and Canada have moved far too quickly.......
    and I suspect that China may soon end up making Reparations Payments that will make the situation faced by the Weimar Republic of German look pretty good..... .in comparison!!!!!

    China at this time owns a huge number of companies in Ecuador where my wife is from....
    but they also have astonishing holdings in all of South America... but because they moved too quickly I believe that they will soon forfeit much if not most of their economic gains worldwide.

    I suspect that Dr. Tony Fauci may soon become a somewhat heroic figure........ but not for the way that he handled Covid 19.......
    I suspect that Dr. Tony will soon come to be known as the guy who conned the astonishingly corrupt Military Industrial Complex of China!!!!!

    Could Dr. Tony Fauci be a heroic figure????

    ?
    Could Dr. Tony Fauci be involved in a plan to have China paying reparations to America???

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    So what I am thinking is that Canada and the USA are generally in a situation where China is getting their people to attempt the economic destabilization of both the USA and Canada......
    (and rest assured Canada is a minor target in comparison to the USA)!!!!

    China's people are attempting to produce any type of disaster that they can but a Supply Chain Crisis is a big one......
    and politically powerful Environmentalists who may be sincere in one way......... are used to knock out the Canadian and USA domestic oil industries.......
    and even to enact laws in the Los Angeles area that can keep super tankers off shore and unable to unload their cargo......
    which is exactly what China wants........
    ... (The Corrupt Military Industrial Complex of China is divided.... and not necessarily in line with Chinese people who own companies and who want to sell their stuff....
    that they produced very cheaply..... (often with slave labour at ReEducation Camps).......
    so that their companies can make higher profits)!!!!


    We are in a situation where any excuse to DIVIDE AMERICANS AND CANADIANS IS BEING USED....... from essentially every conceivable angle...... because
    China wants to knock out the USA as a military super power and they see destroying the economy of the USA as the easiest way to accomplish that goal!!!!!!







     
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    Ask yourself WHY have the FBI and CIA been so terribly incompetent when it comes to greatly decreasing the drug trade and the trafficking of children into what could be termed sex slavery even here in the USA and Canada?

    Ask yourself why...... did the allies ramp up production of opium in Afghanistan after the USA and her allies invaded Afghanistan after the September eleven two thousand and one terrorist attack?

    Could it be that even in the USA and Canada that political leaders are not entitely honest and altruistic and courageous??????

    Ask yourself if "journalists" really deserve the title of journalist... .if they actually hide the larger and more important truths of what all is really happening worldwide ?????
     
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    On that note... .I would like to ask you a question about a related article......
    what about the statistic given by Mr. Melvin Sickler about President Abraham Lincoln saving American taxpayers roughly FOUR BILLION DOLLARS IN INTEREST PAYMENTS due to the sheer economic brilliance of Lincoln's Greenback Monetary Policy Experiment?

    Is that number largely accurate in your opinion..... or do you think that that is false?


    http://www.cidpusa.org/lincoln_JFK.htm

     
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    "Apparently you think this scrip was issued by the people. It wasn't. It was issued by local governments and banks. Those are the very people you accuse of causing small business bankruptcies. Now you want us to think that the problem and the solution are the same." (Imnotreallyhere)
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    This is an excellent question.....
    the people who created the Ithaca Hour in the State of New York seem to be some of the more "artistic" people of that town........
    .... to a degree the same could be said of the people who have created Calgary Dollars and made them so successful.

    www.CalgaryDollars.ca/

    The local government of Calgary is now accepting Calgary Dollars for a portion of property taxes in the area of Calgary.......
    so although your assertion is basically true..... there is far more to this topic!

    I am of the belief that all significantly large companies in both the USA and Canada could in theory create money.....
    and the possibility of using gift cards with some conditions on what these gift cards can be accepted for....... so that
    SHRINK could be addressed.........
    .... for example a building supply store could make gift cards that are only valid for the purchasing of damaged or clearance items in the store.....
    which could in theory greatly decrease SHRINK?!

    At work I have met a number of people who I would like to see write up a script and actors be found to play the role of these people......
    I have a concept in my head for Chris Hemsworth to play the role of one guy.... Jason Stratham plays the role of another guy..... .Tommy Lee Jones plays the role of another buddy from work.....
    Joe Rogan plays the role of another buddy from work...... but here in the Greater Tornonto Area this could begin with Chris Hemsworth, Jason Stratham, Joe Rogan and Tommy Lee Jones look alikes ....... because Toronto has the third larges film industry in North America after Los Angeles and New York..........


    This could be a waste of time......
    and likely will be.... but the concept could take off and a reality film series could be tossed at Netflix that could get people thinking about the likely larger picture that is going on here......
    Canadians and Americans do always have something of a friendly rivalry going on.......
    and.... "A film devoid of conflict is boring!" (R. W. quoted to me back in 2010 but R. W. cannot remember who made that original statement)!

    Gift cards are technically "money" and now in 2022 it is so much easier for a significantly large company to do something like this than it was for those community leaders and ethical bankers back during the Great Depression to apply the Worgl Austria Local money experiment within the context of their situation!
     
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    I do have questions. Is that amount adjusted for inflation? How long was the term of the loan/ is there any assumption it would be repaid, or is that simply an interest calculation on a loan without the principle ever being repaid at all?
     
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    No... I am almost certain that that number is in 1972 dollars so......
    Four billion x 7.13 = 28,520,000,000
    So four billion dollars in 1972 dollars would be more like twenty eight and a half billion in 2022 dollars... if I am not mistaken.....
     
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    Again, is this a calculation of the principal and interest over the term of a loan, or is it simply a cumulative statement of what the interest would have been had the principal remained unpaid until1972?

    It is interesting to note that the greenbacks issued by Lincoln were pretty much fiat money. Though they were redeemable at the Treasury in theory, there would have been no need for them had there been gold at the mint.

    This part of your argument appears to be in favor of a digital currency; the government no longer needs to buy the ink and paper thus increasing its siegniorage.
     
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