Michelle Obama only Democrat to beat Trump in new poll

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  1. garyd

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    He has hundreds of businesses world wide 250 of which bare the Trump name and you think they are all fraudulent.
     
  2. GrayMan

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    No. This poster is absolutely right. Facts don't care about your assertions.

    She isn't someone who has experience and the ability to be president like Tulsi or Kristi Noem
     
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  3. GrayMan

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    Who cares. He started with what, 1 million and is worth billions? What are we arguing here? The fact is that he was more successful than not, end of story.
     
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    And he would have been more successful than that if he had just invested that money in a basic index fund. So, no, I see no reason to celebrate his con artist fraud **** or to praise his failures. Why do you?
     
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    Trump had less experience when he took office. Being a game show host is not experience. You don't actually give a single flying **** about experience.
     
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    He had business experience. That's why he had such a good economy before the virus hit us and most of the businesses were shut down. Obama had political experience had had a terrible economy.
     
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    Yes. He had business experience in failed businesses and fraudulent experiences. Why do you think that is a good thing?
     
  9. GrayMan

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    False. If that was the case. Every millionaire would be a billionaire.
     
  10. yardmeat

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    . . . yes . . . investing your massive millions into an index fund is a good way to become a billionaire, dude.
     
  11. GrayMan

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    I celebrate his success not his failures and he has had more success than failure. Maybe you are so much more successful than him and made so more money with what you had that you are able to be so critical of his failures but I am not. Most people are not.
     
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    I will ask again: aside from his game show, what were his non-fraudulent successes? Most people don't like fraud.
     
  13. GrayMan

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    I am not a 'dude' . And I am fully aware of how much those funds make you and how much Trump is networth isn't just a billion. It's 5 billion. That's only the assets that have value and don't even include the lavish expenses that have no value over the years which means he has made much more than that over the years.
     
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    Trump should approach her about being his VP. She wouldn't take, of course, but it would turn the Leftists on their heads...lol
     
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    The only source we have for Trump's net worth being 5 billion is him claiming it is so . . . and he's a proven liar about that.
     
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    I really don't care. I am not so obsessed with him to go through all his businesses to find something wrong with each one so that I can hate the man. I am more concerned with his ability to lead the country.
     
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    Bullshit, what office did he hold before his first election? What were his qualifications for the job?

    Note: “under-melanated ball sack” does not count as a qualification
     
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    There’s a lot of little details you’re overlooking, like a few of his businesses going bankrupt, being involved in a couple of scandals like the Central Park Eight, and plus someone being popular then doesn’t mean anything if you’re not that now.

    Also, I don’t hate him because people tell me to, I hate him because he’s a c.nt.
     
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    Well, Michael is a racist and it does seem to be in fashion to demonize the white people.

    What we really need for president is someone who can reach down there and grab a pair and maybe Michael could do that ?
     
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    There are more jobs than people out of work, something the American economy has never experienced before
    https://www.cnbc.com/.../there-are-more-jobs-than-people...

    Pay gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
    www.cnbc.com › 2018/01/31 › pay-gains-under-trump...

    Jan 31, 2018 - Workers looking for fatter paychecks had their best year in 2017 since before the financial crisis, according to a government report Wednesday.

    Overlooked on economy? Rising paychecks for blue-collar ...
    www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/08/14/blue...
    Aug 14, 2019 • Blue-collar path to solid paycheck. And as blue-collar workers have seen their wallets thicken, highly educated white-collar workers’ wages have grown more modestly.

    • Pay
    gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
    www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps...
    Jan 31, 2018 • President Donald Trump's first full year in office saw gains that easily outdistanced any year for his predecessor, Barack Obama, whose best showing was the 2.2 percent increases in 2016 and 2014. Six of Obama's eight years in office saw gains of 2 percent or less.

    https://www.atr.org/thanks-trump-median-household-income-highest-level-ever
    Real median household income has grown by $4,144 or 6.8 percent since President Trump took office, according to an op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal.

    This data is based on a report released by Sentier Research analyzing the Census Bureau’s monthly Current Population Survey.
    As noted in the op-ed, authored by Stephen Moore, real median household income is at an all-time high:
    “Real median household income—the amount earned by those in the very middle—hit $65,084 (in 2019 dollars) for the 12 months ending in July. That’s the highest level ever and a gain of $4,144, or 6.8%, since Mr. Trump took office. By comparison, during 7½ years under President Obama—starting from the end of the recession in June 2009 through January 2017—the median household income rose by only about $1,000.”
    The below chart highlights the strong Trump wage growth.

    Economy & Politics: Income Gap Grows under Trump, Obama — but ...
    www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/income-gap-growth...
    Indeed, in a bit more than half of his term, Trump’s $5,003 mountain of growth in median household income is 346 percent higher than Bush-Obama’s $1,444 molehill of marginal middle-class earnings. https://www.nationalreview.com/.../income-gap-growth.../

    There are more jobs than people out of work, something the American economy has never experienced before
    https://www.cnbc.com/.../there-are-more-jobs-than-people...

    Pay gains under Trump best since the Great RecessionPay gain
    www.cnbc.com › 2018/01/31 › pay-gains-under-trump...

    Jan 31, 2018 - Workers looking for fatter paychecks had their best year in 2017 since before the financial crisis, according to a government report Wednesday.

    Overlooked on economy? Rising paychecks for blue-collar ...
    www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/08/14/blue...
    Aug 14, 2019 • Blue-collar path to solid paycheck. And as blue-collar workers have seen their wallets thicken, highly educated white-collar workers’ wages have grown more modestly.

    • Pay
    gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
    www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps...
    Jan 31, 2018 • President Donald Trump's first full year in office saw gains that easily outdistanced any year for his predecessor, Barack Obama, whose best showing was the 2.2 percent increases in 2016 and 2014. Six of Obama's eight years in office saw gains of 2 percent or less.
     
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    Do you also struggle with reading comprehension?

    It is completely laughable that so many people will say "yeah...but those businesses failed" while ignoring the undeniable fact that the corporation runs at any given time HUNDREDS of businesses and only a comparativel handful of those businesses failed. He was called in by the city of New York to run and salvage projects their own agencies couldnt manage.
     
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    That may be true as far as his business acumen but running a country ain’t the same as running a business. Especially when said country could’ve used a little more help or preparation amidst a COVID pandemic.
     
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    Prior to the pandemic, the economy roared, the border was under control and contrary to all the haters, our foreign policy was rock solid. Immediately after Joe took over he ****ed the economy, **** the bed at the border, and COMPLETELY ****ed up the Afghanistan withdrawal in spite of the warnings of his own generals.
     
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    When you sleep... do you have dreams about Trump? Be honest.
     
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    Every criminal who is convicted say the judiciary system is corrupt. Trump saying the convictions are rat scams means absolutely nothing.

    The American judiciary system is in place for past 250 years, and it worked perfectly until Trump the convict committed crime. Now suddenly American judiciary system is a kangaroo court. OH, how far the law and order conservatives have fallen! They don’t like American justice system after 250 years.
     

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