More lies about Israel and hospitals

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  1. RWKindaguy

    RWKindaguy Newly Registered

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    The truth is a painful master sometimes, but you have spoken the absolute truth here.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's amusing that none of the Israel haters are able to admit that Hamas started this mess
     
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    The videos that Hamas fighters took and broadcasted say otherwise. But why let facts get in the way?
     
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    That would completely destroy the narrative they've built that Israel is the aggressor and occupier of stolen land, and that the Palestinians are the victims.
     
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    Israel doesn't need to cover for the deaths of Gaza civilians. Those deaths are the collateral damge of Israel's responding militarily to terrorist attacks their citizens.

    News flash: civilians die during the chaos of war.
     
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    I think the justification is crystal clear. Hamas buried their war making resources and fighters there using civilians as human shields Well Hamas, those deaths are on you.
     
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    How long before they include quotes from the Elders of Zion, and tell us about Jews using the blood of Palestinians in the making of their bread?
     
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    Show me.

    You claim this, but I see no cite.
     
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    “The current wholesale slaughter of the Palestinian people, rooted in an ethno-nationalist colonial settler ideology, in continuation of decades of their systematic persecution and purging, based entirely upon their status as Arabs … leaves no room for doubt.”

    "Mokhiber added: “This is text book case of genocide” and said the US, UK and much of Europe were not only “refusing to meet their treaty obligations” under the Geneva Conventions but were also arming Israel’s assault and providing political and diplomatic cover for it."

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...l-resigns-israel-hamas-war-palestine-new-york

    His full statement:
    https://twitter.com/artan_ayan/status/1719453324284452944/photo/1

    Even more than half of Republicans want a ceasefire:
    https://www.dataforprogress.org/blo...asefire-and-de-escalation-of-violence-in-gaza

    What is going on is a humanitarian atrocity - a genocide. And as of now, we Americans have SUPPORTED that genocide for DECADES, not just in this latest conflict.
     
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    False. This "mess" was started decades ago.

    This isn't even the first flare up that has taken place for exactly the same reasons.
     
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    The UN, the USA, UK, EU - all western thinking people see these actions of Israel as atrocity.

    In fact, the UN labels it genocide, and for very good reason.
     
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    These are very clearly humanitarian atrocities.

    It's the same as having a criminal live in your neighborhood, so authorities bombed your neighborhood to dust, killing all residents - then blaming the dead.

    There is NO argument related to supporting genocide.
     
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    Not all Israelis are so totally bereft of morals as are you.

    Here is Gideon Levi on this topic:

     
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    That explains why the Gaza Strip is one of the most highly populated areas in the world. :confused:
     
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    I don't care what the UN says. I have no respect for the UN.
     
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    From your comments I don't think you know what genocide is. Collateral civilian deaths during time of war certainly is not genocide.
     
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    There will never be a two state solution, Islam will never accept even large numbers of Jews in the Middle East never mind a Jewish state. It's an essential part of their worrldview that all Jews must be pursued and killied wherever they can be found.
     
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    Do you like facts?
     
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    What makes you suggest THAT?
     
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    These are purposeful killings of civilians.

    They slaughtered over 100 humans in a refugee camp because they thought that one individual might be there.

    Then, they repeated that in the same refugee camp.
     
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    The definition the USA helped create and is widely accepted throughout the world:

    "Genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part.”
     
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    Well, you are wrong about Palestinians accepting Jews living among them. Palestine states that they will live beside the permanent state of Israel.

    I've posted several statements from Israelis that their intent is to totally obliterate Gaza to the point that no living Palestinians will reside there.

    They admit to genocide.

    Also, your comment to my post ignores everything that the Israeli speaker stated in terms of the future, two state solution, intent of Israel, etc.

    Plus, your comments clearly indicate that you did not listen to what he had to say.
     
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    The Gaza Strip is 41 kilometres (25 miles) long, from 6 to 12 km (3.7 to 7.5 mi) wide, and has a total area of 365 km2 (141 sq mi).[19][20] With around 2 million Palestinians[21] on approximately 365 km2 (141 sq mi) of land, Gaza has a high population density (comparable to that of Hong Kong)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip

    Just saying that if they were so under attack for so many years - there would not be so many of them.
     
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    I've heard ppl also say there's no way 6 million Jewish ppl died because of the same reason you're giving.
     
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    I never said the only casualties are terrorists, black and white is your world not mine.

    I dont care why they grabbed our civilians into Shifa, I dont care why they built bunkers underneath it - but since they did, Shifa is a military target and so are the high ranking doctors who knew and lied about it. same goes to Palestinian UN employees, journalists and every Gov/high rank official in Gaza, they all collaborate or members of Hamas and all will be arrested.
     
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