More lies about Israel and hospitals

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  1. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jews were preparing to seize all of Palestine 10 years before their "Iron Wall" of British bayonets disappeared:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Dalet#Background

    "In the summer of 1937, according to the official history of the Haganah, the commander of their forces in the Tel Aviv area, Elimelech Slikowitz ('Avnir') received an order from Ben-Gurion who, anticipating an eventual British withdrawal from the country after the Peel Report, asking Slikowitz to prepare a plan for the military conquest of the whole of Palestine.

    "According to the historians Walid Khalidi and Ahmad H. Sa'di, it was this Avnir Plan which provided a blueprint, refined in subsequent adjustments (A,B,C) before it emerged in its final form as Plan Dalet over a decade later."
     
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    If it had worked it would have been good for the Jews. There is plenty of room elsewhere in the Arab world for the Palestinians.
     
  3. RWKindaguy

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    So, Ehud Barak said that Israel built the entire complex? If so, then he's a bald face liar. And don't get me started on CNN. One of the most unreliable sources on cable news. Don't believe me, just look at their coverage of the Russia collusion hoax, and Hunter's laptop. They completely bought into it.
     
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    Could you stop writing fiction in the U.S. and World news section?

    If it weren't for the excesses the Israeli's used in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, the Arabs would never had come to the Palestinians' defense.
     
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    Your post shows that you wholeheartedly support ethnic cleaning.

    Fun Fact: 90% of Israeli's have dual citizenship. If anyone has someplace to return to . . .
     
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    And they never would have been defeated by Israel. :applause:
     
  7. Bob Newhart

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    No, Israel still planned on attacking them.

    Oh btw, you just posted another post in support of ethnic cleansing.

    In this case, your emoji is cheering on ethnic cleaning and approving of it.
     
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  8. georgephillip

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    Would that qualify as ethnic cleansing?
     
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    Germany shot rockets at us, too. So did others. Also, there is international law on various of the issues being discussed here.

    Expanding land by conquest is not legal. The genocide (UN definition) waged by Israel against Palestine is an humanitarian atrocity.

    Israelis who settled in Palestine are Palestinian citizens under the rule of the government of Palestine.

    Israel isn't exempt from the rule of law.
     
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    Ehud Barak was there.

    So were a few million others.
     
  11. Conservative Democrat

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    Where was the UN when Egypt threatened to destroy Israel? The UN Peacekeeping force withdraw. The UN is in a poor position to constrain Israel from annexing the land conquered in the Six Day War.
     
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    The core issue between Jews and Palestinians today is the collective dispossession and compulsory population transfer of Palestinians that began over 75 years ago.

    In a word, Zionism is why the Right of Return applies only to Jews from anywhere on the planet and not to indigenous Palestinians:

    https://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine-Remembered/Story452.html

    "The Zionist movement has maintained a striking continuity in its aims and methods over the past century.

    "From the start, the movement sought to achieve a Jewish majority in Palestine and to establish a Jewish state on as much of the LAND as possible.

    "The methods included promoting both mass Jewish immigration and acquiring tracts of land that would become the inalienable property of the Jewish people.

    "This policy inevitably prevented the indigenous Arab residents from attaining their national goals and establishing a Palestinian state."
     
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    You're apparently unaware that the pro Nazi German Zionist Federation worked with Germany's National Socialists (aka Nazis) to establish about 40 training camps for future Zionist terrorist gangs.
    These Zionist terrorists who were trained and heavily armed by the SS (1) and that's where they got their military training to defeat those attempting to defend Palestine's native residents against Nazi trained Zionists.

    The Zionist terrorist Gangs who later became IDF committed and commits atrocities that would make any SS member blush. (2)



    (1). “Zionism and the Third Reich”
    https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html

    EXCERPT “In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag, Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. /19

    Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS. /20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs. /21

    In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. /22” CONTINUED


    (2). “Deir Yasin Massacre, 09.04.1948”
    https://www.countercurrents.org/alhelsi100410.htm

    EXCERPT " One of the worst Zionist massacres committed against Palestinians is the Deir Yasin massacre. Defenceless Palestinian civilians were tortured before being massacres and their bodies mutilated. Women and children were raped, babies were butchered and pregnant women were bayoneted." CONTINUED
     
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    I do not believe any of that. Just because you found something on the internet you want to believe does not mean that it is true.
     
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    It was a genocidal attack of all living beings down to pets to smite them off what they think is their land, it was only stopped by the IDF otherwise they would carry it on.
     
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    Your Hamas is a genocide organization, an Islamic death cults that must be eradicated, peacefully ofc, with lawyers present.......as this forum forbids violence against non-Jews.
     
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    Hamas is just one terror organization in Gaza, destroying it cannot be called "genocide"
     
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    I would not call the Jews "scum." Jews are the most accomplished 0.2% of the human population. Jews benefit every country they live in with their superior intelligence. We need more Jews in the United States. Unfortunately, there are not enough Jews to go around. We in the United States already have far more than our fair share of Jews.

    I am not Jewish, by the way. If I was Jewish I would not praise them. Jews are humble about their superiority.
     
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    Well....isn't it funny
    See i'm fine with the latter since you are with the first
     
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    Israelites first enter the archaeological record in the West Bank about twelve centuries ago. Currently the West Bank is the legitimate spoils of a war provoked by Arab efforts to destroy Israel.
     
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    If you are sticking with that then, I call Ehud Barack a bald faced liar. Tell me, for what purpose would the Israelis build 200 miles of tunnels under Gaza? What possible military value would that serve? You can't possibly be serious when you agree with such a statement from him and CNN.
     
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    Agreed. There is no such place called the West Bank, it is called Samaria and Judea and has been called such for thousands of years. There is no such land known as Palestine or Palestinia.
     
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    This is not what Barak said. He just assumed everyone knew that Israel built the Al Shifa hospital, including the basement of course. Hamas turned the basement into a bunker and command center, building tunnels for smuggling and terror attacks.

    For someone who already knows that Al Shifa was built by Israel, Barak's statement is not worth mentioning at all. Hospitals have basements, and whoever builds hospitals also builds the basements. Breaking news for...well, nobody really.
     
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    Thanks for the response. What you are saying makes perfect sense, and puts to rest the arrogantly stupid argument that Israel built the tunnel complex.
     
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    You got it very wrong. Israel built the hospital, not the tunnel complex. As I said, please stop buying in to the Hamas propaganda. Also, there are many many videos (do a google search) of stockpiles of weapons laid out that came from the tunnel complex under the hospital.
     

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