Muslims put in camps like FDR did with Japanese Americans?

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    Except the non-violent voices far outnumber the violent ones. Just because you have selective hearing and choose to ignore them, doesn't mean they aren't talking.
     
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    It makes it idiotic to then claim all Muslims support Jihad like Freedomseeker likes to.
     
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    Aisha wasn't a child by the standards of the Arabian society of the 7th century. Why would you hold people from 1300 years ago by modern standards?
     
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    Allah would have known better - Allah would have known that his example would cause untold numbers of little girls to get married/raped as 9 year-olds in Muslim societies. - Allah would have known that mental and physical damage occurs to kid who have sex, like studies now show us. The all-knowing Allah taught ethics - he didn't just go along with what barbarians at the time did, it can be argued. Allah would know right from wrong.

    Muhammad is known as al-Insān al-Kāmil (the perfect human) and uswa hasana (an excellent model of conduct), and not just for one small particular moment in time, but for all time.

    Please care about little girls as much as Modern Secular Humanists do - they are wonderful, and never deserved to get married/raped by Muslim men as mere 9 year-olds.
     
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    Whoa, I've never said all Muslims support terrorism. Virtually all Muslims can't summon the moral courage to condemn Mohammad for having inspired terrorists by saying "I have been made victorious through terror", however. So they are far below Modern Secular Humanists in this important regard.
     
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    The Nazis who did NOT participate in the Holocaust far outnumbered the Nazis that DID participate in the Holocaust. See how that works?
     
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    Allah isn't real. So what point is there in bringing it up?

    I do care about little girls, but I also recognize morality is not absolute and has fluctuated over time. You know? LIKE A ****ING HUMANIST WOULD.

    You see, unlike you, I actually know Muslims (your hatred prevents you from seeing them as people, so I understand why none of them would ever talk to you). The Muslims I know interpret "perfect human" quite differently and it has more to do with a spiritual definition than a moral one. They also interpret "model of conduct" to have to do more with submission to Allah than with temporal conduct too.
     
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    Wait, so are you lying now and claiming you did not say "But Muslims are driven by a war manual that spells out "fight them until all worhship is for Allah"....so Muslims won't rest until Allah's wish is fulfilled."?
     
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    Are you claiming all Muslims are the equivalent of Nazis?
     
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    They think he's real!!!!!!!!!!!!! They act as if he's real!!!

    No, I don' hate Muslims - but you do appear to hate, or at least not care, about little girls getting raped my old men. Defending an ancient religion seems more of a priority to you than the welfare of little girls.

    Mohammad's day to day behavior is seen as perfect by Muslims and the Islamic texts.
     
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    Yes, ENOUGH of them (not 100%, and it does not NEED to be 100% for it to be dangerous) will follow the instructions in the Islamic texts, so said texts are dangerous. Please value peace more than you do - Jihad is a bad thing, and a book that promises Paradise for those that kill non-believers is not as peace-loving as Modern Secular Humanism is.
     
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    But it doesn't matter if they believe he is real because Allah isn't and PEOPLE shape morality.

    Why are such a ****ing worthless liar? Quote me where I have said anything about not caring about little girls getting raped by old men. Quote me right ****ing now or admit you lied.
     
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    1. Nazis advocated the killing of Jews.
    2. Muslims are perfectly fine with Mohammad saying that they (like Nazis) will have to kill the Jews eventually:
    "Sahih Muslim Book 041, Number 6985:
    Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews."

    Can you condemn Mohammad for saying to fight/kill the Jews?
     
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    Its not even close to being a large minority, let alone a majority but you malign all of them.

    Modern Secular Humanism is driven by evidence. The evidence OPPOSES your position. So I can only assume that you, LIKE A THEIST, are ignoring reality so that you can reinforce your hateful worldview.

    I don't know why I'm surprised. We already know you are willing to reject science if it doesn't conform to your worldview.
     
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    If they believe a magic man in the sky is actually real then that causes lots of problems - such as said magic man promising them 72 virgins when they kill non-believers.
     
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    All Muslims are perfectly fine with passage and all of them interpret it the EXACT same you are?
     
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    Notice you can't provide a quote. But you won't admit to lying.

    Is it because you lack moral courage?
     
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    I don't hate, but Allah does - he will see that you and your mother are burned alive (allegedly) simply for not being a Muslim, for eternity. And Muslims are fine with you and your mother roasting like that. You defend that barbarity, you defend that religion.
     
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    Even if 1% interpret it as "ok, well, I guess we are going to have to kill the Jews some day, because a man 1400 years ago said so", then it's F***ED UP! What part of genocide is acceptable to you, Q? It calls for genocide. You are downplaying that - do you hate humanity so much that you are ok with GENOCIDE?
     
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    Allah isn't real so Allah is incapable of hate.

    Why do you insist on maintaining this worldview about Islam that isn't supported by objective evidence? If it isn't hatred, is the problem that you, like a THEIST, are "delusional" (using your unscientific definition) and can't tell reality from your fantasy?
     
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    I don't have time to look up the quote regarding the 72 virgins, but it's in the hadith.
    Would you condemn Mohammad if I can find it?
     
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    You can't get rid of the 1% of the population that are *******s. There are always going to be *******s. There always have been *******s.

    You punish them when they violate the law, but you can't prevent their existence without massively violating individual rights.
     
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    But those who approve of Allah's hate (from the texts, that is), are guilty of hate. They hate you so much that they are fine with you and your mom being roasted alive just for not believing in their invisible friend in the sky. That's unethical.
     
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    That's not the topic. You need to provide a quote of me not caring about little girls getting raped by old men, or you can just admit to being a liar.

    A humanist with actual moral courage would have the ability to admit to lying.
     
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    They would be better people if they didn't follow a religion that says to commit genocide against Jews.
     

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