My Problems with New Atheism

No mind reading required. In your case, little evidence of a working mind.

You continue to spew what you believe and demand that others also believe it. This makes you what used to be called a false prophet. This shows how insecure you are with what you claim as your beliefs

 

I just disputed all their arguments.

 

Is your religion, anti-Sasquatchism? Anti-Nessiism? Anti-UFO-ism? Not believing something is real <> faith and faith <>religion.

 

Where? I bet you haven't even done one.

 

I did all of them when I said it was nothing but circular logic.

 

Oh, I really like this one Koko, are you going to pick another subject to be wrong on! As an aside, it's like you say you are an agnostic but, keep bringing up topics worded in a way that is typical of a theist, now that is interesting.

Now that you have been so incompetent at showing that my statement that, 'I am an atheist and I lack belief' is not true, let's have fun with this one so, what was the FULL ruling in the court on the status of atheism in law in the US?

 

Oh you have plenty of "belief" and also "faith" even though you will not admit it.

 

I have beliefs and I do admit it so, what's your problem?

 

Didn't you claim since you were atheist you had no belief?

 

Atheism only pertains to theistic claims but, if you need clarification, I will give it. I just didn't think that it was necessary in the context of atheism.

 

Oh, ok. But even so, you at least have some type of philosophy as to why you reject the idea of a god. Unless you just hate religious people.

 

In the absence of an assertion regarding gods, I lack any belief, it is not possible for me to have a belief in a concept of gods that has not been asserted by someone unless I assert it myself and I don't.

If you assert anything about gods without evidence then why should I be compelled to change my lack of belief simply because you have done so?

My position is that it is irrational to adopt a belief either way for anything asserted without evidence. I simply cannot justify belief.

My atheism is a rejection, not a counter assertion.

As far as possible, I try to adopt that position on all assertions however, I accept that to function as a human being in the reality that I perceive that I sometimes have to have an unjustified belief or faith in order to avoid being eaten.

 

"Without evidence"? What kind of evidence?

 

Not exhaustive but, this comes to mind...

Not personal revelation.
Can be shown.
Can be corroborated.
Compelling, could not be explained any other way.

 

ANYTHING beyond personal opinion and fictional literature.

That is unfortunately, the ONLY thing ever provided for a couple thousand years of trying and everything YOU have as well.

 

Sorry but I did not ask what you consider to be not evidence. I am asking what type of evidence in a specific and concrete way.

 

See above post. I am not asking what has not been shown but rather what kind of evidence would be required. This seems to stymie atheists for some reason.

 

Okay....for starters:

Physical manifestation of anything reality based.
Physical confirmation of any of his documented "Miracles" or Biblical stories.
Turning on a light switch when asked.
Performing any action in front of a witness.
Doing ANYTHING that can be reviewed by more than an individual.

 

Since you make the extraordinary claim that your god is the alleged "creator of the universe and everything in it" please provide the extraordinary credible evidence that your god actually exists and include independent verifiable corroboration for this extraordinary credible evidence.

This always seems to stymie theists for some reason.

 

So a potato chip in the shape of Jesus?





Why are you so vague?

 

But again, what kind of evidence? Why can't you guys answer, are you stymied?

 

Which part of the term "extraordinary credible evidence that your god actually exists" needs to be explained?

Do you know what the term credible means?

How about the term evidence?

Do you know what exists means?

 

As is the typical when the Theist is confronted with any request for serious data in a debate concerning their "God", distraction and diversion are used to avoid uncomfortable admission of failure. Little do they realize that by doing this they admit to it regardless.

 

Are you saying potato chip Jesus is what you are looking for? That is pretty extraordinary.

 

I am just trying to get an answer. First you say "evidence" and now you say "data".

Typical of atheists to move the goal posts. Just admit if you are presented with evidence or proof or even potato chip Jesus, you have no intention of ever believing in anything that requires anything of you. It is either that or you cannot understand a simple concept like spirituality.