National cabinet agrees to nationwide gun registry

https://www.9news.com.au/national/n...ics-news/c697f2a9-238e-4289-8ce6-351fecd808ab

Anyone who reads my posts will know that I would be in favour of this. I would be interested though, in what my fellow Aussies (and other members of Oceania ) feel about this step

The incident at Wieambilla should never be allowed to happen again

 

It's a near guarantee more rounds of gun confiscation will follow over the next 2 to 6 years. Registration is always the first step before government uses that information to do what they really want to do.

Australia could have implemented a system more like the U.S. but obviously were not interested in that. The system in place in the U.S. allows for guns used in crimes to be traced back while still trying to protect the anonymity of legal owners from government, sort of like a compromise.

Of course, I'm sure the media in Australia never even let Australians know that was an option.

 

Australians are a strange people. Why they would give this power to the government to begin with is amazing to me. I mean we are talking about the country that’s actively trying to ban duck hunting. Weird people.

 

It's probably way off topic but I have noticed one thing. It seems most white Australians have less self control than most white Americans. I've met a lot of Australians who seem kind of wacky-bonkers or completely senseless, to a point where I wondered how someone could be like that and not be stupid (they were not that lacking in intelligence). It might have something to do with the genetic pool. Historically fewer farmers in Australia is one thing that could have something to do with it, I suspect (people in farming areas couldn't last for long if they did not have any self control or sense). And Australia was a former prison colony and a lot of people from the lower class in England were sent there. And, the majority of Australia's population has lived in the big city areas for a majority of the country's history, which contrasts with the history of the U.S. To summarise, the "culture", or probably genetic pool, in Australia is the farthest thing away from bourgeoisie. Hypothetically, had Australia been all settled by the upper class in England, with the personal restraint that they display, I'd bet everyone could have guns and it wouldn't be any big problem.

 

Ah, Australia, the next in the long line of nations continuing to prove that no amount of gun control is ever enough.

 

And yet we rank HIGHER on the Freedom index than America
https://freedomhouse.org/country/united-states/freedom-world/2022

 

Sorry I must have slept through the last “gun confiscations”

When did they happen?

As for a system “more like the US” NO thanks with cherries on top. We like our citizens upright and breathing not riddled with bullets and bleeding

 

Ummmmm - have you TASTED wood duck? Same recipe as Cockatoo - throw a brick into the water along with the duck when the brick is tender throw away the duck and eat the brick

This is not about banning guns but about saving species. A lot of threatened species are further threatened by an unnecessary “sport”. If you want to shoot something shoot ferals

 

It is because we have a sense of humour

 

Well here's just one example:
Australian Regulation will turn Museum Guns into "Metal Blobs"

 

We have wood ducks here so I’m not sure how they’re endangered and yes I have ate them and if you cook them wrong they taste like garbage but if you cook them right, they’re better than a steak. Learn how to cook them.

and you can still hunt and identify game before you kill. If you want to not allow the wood duck to be shot it doesn’t mean you can’t allow others. We have different limits on different types of ducks. It’s not that hard to identify before you shoot.

 

Is that the freedom index that values the freedom to be forced to pay for other peoples healthcare over the freedom to defend oneself if the police are away?

 

As a gun owner it doesn't really affect me at all as far as I can tell. I doubt the state police in SA would get any resistance from WA police if they needed info on my license for some reason, but hey - anything that isn't more bans and restrictions is a blessing at this point.

Introducing registration from no registration would be a different matter, but we already have state level registration, so I can't see any difference.

 

Those lists are always based on the viewpoint of those making them.

 

Possibly and maybe even probably but the real way to address that is take it up with the creators of those lists

 

Or just ignore them, I guess?

Freedom is an odd thing. I felt a lot of it in South Africa purely because the government doesn't give a **** about you and so doesn't enforce nanny state bullshit, despite SA being an objectively less free country in a lot of areas.

Freedom, like all normative claims, is values-dependent. You can't get an ought without a value/goal.

 

Better flagging system to prevent another Wieambilla because those guns were purchased in NSW and smuggled across the borders

 

I don't see how this would have prevented that, but again, it's not yet another ban or restriction so I'm unconcerned.

 

I think there were flags in Qld that did not show up in NSW. Early days yet

 

If there were "flags" (presumably, illegalities - we live under the rule of law) you'd think they would have let the NSW police know. Otherwise we have larger issues than a lack of a national register.

Again, anything that is not more bans is welcome at this point.