Natural Covid immunity is stronger and longer than Vaccinated immunity

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  1. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    Peer Reviewed studies suggest that natural immunity is stronger and longer than vaccinated. The natural B cells are even more effective against variants.

    https://www.rockefeller.edu/news/30...fferences-in-covid-antibody-responses-emerge/

    This to me is a reason to allow people to make a choice on being vaccinated. There is scientific proof that they garner better long term immune response. However it does come with a risk of death or long lasting issues. The vaccine also carries these risks but much much less odds of getting a bad outcome.

    I choose to point this out in support of people making their own vaccination choice. There are pros and cons to both choices and the individual should decide on which path they take. I am vaccinated I have an immune response that works and proved by my whole family getting it but me. Now they have longer immunity response than me. But that’s okay cause I never got sick. My kids just got mild coughs, my wife got hammered hard but is doing better now. Her choice may be better for her than mine in the long run. Time will tell. But her choice was that of her own.

    Now that she has scientific backing claiming a better immune response is it fair to make her get vaccinated to go to dinner with me, or to go to the local gym? Or does it make her less suitable for any public venue or to be employed as a teacher? Cause science says she’s now of better immunity than I. So why not? This forced vaccine stuff is ludicrous and should be stopped. Science says some of the anti vaxxers are safer to be around for their natural immunity if they have had it.
     
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    It's commonsense to assume natural immunity from previously getting covid offers more then an experimental shot. But our elites don't even take into consideration those unvaccinated that already has natural immunity. What percentage of those who still haven't gotten the shot already had Covid?
     
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    And I'll bet that vaccinated immunity is better than no immunity.
     
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    I agree. I was really wanting some sort of immunity and not keen on getting sick with some brand new virus.
     
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    That doesn’t negate the fact that segregation of unvaccinated naturally immune people should be held to a different social acceptability.
     
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    And to each their own. I support your decision as well. It’s the same path I took. I simply choose not to force people against their will to get vaccinated. Maybe this is a midwest thought process, it’s very common in this area. But I’m also not in big cities very often.
     
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    No such thing as immunity from a vaccine, well unless it comes in KOOL-ADE, grape flavored!
     
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    I agree with LTC Theresa Long, US Army--how can injecting toxic chemicals including PEGS and graphene oxide into the human body contribute to immunity at all?
     
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    All you have to do is be able to tell what's going on. Good luck!
     
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    And yet my son may be forced to get a vaccine that can kill him in order to take a flight to a destination wedding next Spring. He is more fit than I ever was: 20ish body builder. He's already had and beaten Covid. (And he called it BS then). Gonna be a long half year holding my breath to see how bad this gets.
     
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    I agree. But that presumes not only that post-covid immunity is as good as vaccinated immunity, but that the unvaccinated can prove themselves to be post-covid immune.

    Are you suggesting they all get tested for antibodies before we hold them to equal social acceptability?
     
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    Did you instead force them to get the virus?
     
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    I always support people being given the choice whether or not to have vaccinations. That said, there are people like Virginia Governor Northam who had COVID and now attributes many "long covid" issues he is having with that with having contracted the virus before he got his jabs. He apparently is going to be in that group of people who never get their smell/taste back right after having the infection.
     
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    IF and it is a big IF you survive without adverse sequelae
     
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    Well, maybe there is some solace from that the risks of driving and flying and driving to a destination may very well more risk with the vaccine than any risk from getting the vaccine itself.
     
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    The 40 year old daughter of a good friend of mine took the shot months ago so that she could "travel", and went into anaphylactic shock. Recovered from that and has permanent GB syndrome and other problems.

    This is an upside down world we live in, with the bad guys Gates, Soros and others firmly in charge.
     
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    I wouldn't worry too much. The last I heard is the percentage of something negative happening because of the shot is .004%. It's probably not as risky as crossing a two lane street.
     
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    Did you know that humans have been known to "cook the books"? Did you know that pattern of behavior has been blatantly in play since the Plandemic began? In every state of the union, on the federal level, and in most countries in the "civilized" world?

    Your .004% is another example of it.
     
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    No. It's really not a big if.
     
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    Have you seen the stats for “Long Covid”?
    https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/long-covid-may-occur-in-more-than-half-of-all-case
     
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    You'll have to excuse me for doubting many of the statistics being thrown around. It's incontrovertible that the data is low fidelity and inconsistent. I'm afraid that I'm going to to with my personal observations and those are: many (if not most) of my ring of family and friends have had covid. None have died and none have "long covid" (not to worry, there will be some other reason to be afraid in a report coming soon - just watch). Maybe it's folly to draw hard conclusions but there you go. I don't trust the numbers reported.
     
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    Let me jar your memory just a little. All you trumpers think the rest of the world has been cruel to trump. You need to remember that the first time he lied to you was about his first day in office. Remember him forcing his Press Secretary Sean Spicer to claim the crowd at his Inauguration was the largest ever? And remember photo evidence that Spicer was lying. That should have been a clue for a lot of trumpers that Agent Orange was a F****** liar and would try and deceive everyone at every opportunity. So soon you forget.
     
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    Fine. My information is contrary to that but fine. I say if a person rejects vaccinations, let them reject, and then put them in quarantine to protect the rest of us from such carriers like they did with Typhoid Mary. It's mostly RWers who reject anyway so it would just have the added benefit of reducing the number of cultists.
     
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    If the vaccinations work why would you need to be isolated from a non-vaxxed person?
     
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    Seems fine to allow those who can prove they've already had covid and recovered to forgo vaccination. Not because they wouldn't still benefit from vaccination, they would, but because their immunity is good enough that they're not a greater risk to others than never-infected vaccinated.
     
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