New here. Are there any liberals who could explain their economic theory to me?

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  1. highlander

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    Its your government policy!

    Regards
    Highlander
     
  2. Southern Man

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    No it ain't!
     
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    The part where you complain more about social spending for real persons instead of the coercive use of force of the State to merely deny and disparage Individual Liberty and States' rights.
     
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    Shouldn't our elected representatives be fixing a moral and ethical Standard regarding the rule of law under our republican form of Government, instead of merely holding professional athletes or the business community to any higher Standard?
     
  6. Southern Man

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    Liberal social spending has resulted in the highest poverty rate since the war on poverty began. Nice job!
     
  7. dairyair

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    There's a party that has bouts with conservatism? Which one? I haven't seen any semblance of conservatism in 2 or more decades.
    I've seen plenty of crony capitalism out of both parties, but no semblance of conservatism.
     
  8. Southern Man

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    Good point. Collectively at the national level, yes. But in 2010 we elected some true patriots. Here in my state we've managed to override several vetoes from our liberal governor.
     
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    What do you mean "supposed" -----There is no assuming--- The TRUTH is out there-I assume you know how to GOOGLE ? I would highly recommend a little research on your part there Southern Man if you are questioning whether or not Reagan raised taxes-
    Now to answer your question about OBAMA not raising taxes -he has been trying to end the Bush tax cuts which would then have the top 1% pay their fair share in taxes & bring about tax reform -Can you tell me how many GOP "Filibusters" there have been in the last 31/2 years & how the GOP has held other tax relief hostage,all in order to give the top 1% more tax breaks.
     
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    You claim that the Democrats want tax relief, yet ObamaCare institutes many taxes on the middle class. You claim that the GOP is trying to coddle the rich, when even the current lower rates are higher for the wealthy than they are for the poor.

    And you claim that a progressive tax system is fair. How is it fair to require one rate for person A and a higher rate for person B?

    Granted that the wealthy take advantage of "loopholes". No one supports that. The fact is that our tax system is to complicated, and every time Congress make a law attempting to close a hole two more open up. That's because taxpayers who can afford to hire smart tax lawyers react faster than congress can.

    The only way to make everyone pay their fair share is to have one rate for everyone with no exceptions.
     
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    So,the next time someone on the forum derides OBAMA for being a "Community Organizer" I will be looking for you to defend him.( GO back a few posts on this very OP,to read for yourself someone deriding OBAMA for being a "Community Organizer" but that being said; so it's ok to be a movie actor to be qualified & experienced to be POTUS-or it's ok to be a job outsourcer & dubious business dealer to be qualified to be POTUS.Just a couple of examples.
    Seems the GOP supporters have missed the entire point--The "majority" of voters in 2008 picked OBAMA & his " IDEAS" to be POTUS-he campaigned-we knew he was a "Community Organizer" What qualified OBAMA to run for POTUS is the same as any other person running.
     
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    No, I won't be defending the Obama for his lack of experience. While you deride Reagan for being an actor you ignore the fact that was also a successful Governor of California.
     
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    What is with "You Claim"&" assuming" Don't you know past political history or even more recent political history?
    So,we now have a POTUS,that instead of kicking the can down the road-is TRYING to tackle the important "ISSUES" that have been on the table for years on end-if the GOP was interested in the country's well being,they would belly up to the bar to get the ball rolling-OBAMA spelled out exactly what his vision & "IDEAS" were on the campaign trail in 2008-many of us (majority)listened & still believe we can accomplish a better tomorrow with his visions.
    I for one don't have a problem with paying my fair share of taxes -I don't want to fix that pothole in the road,I don't want to buy a gun to defend our streets,I don't want to go fight a fire,ect... You get my point..What I don't get,is why the top 1% doesn't want these things also,or why they want someone else to pay for them-And another thing I don't understand is why the top 1% wants to make their money here (United States) & then go invest it in another country.
    Take notice here "Southern Man" Whether it is your intention or not you are dangerously close to setting up a strawman defense-then you will be left arguing with yourself.
    I have to go do some research on you saying that "OBAMACARE" raises taxes on the middle class-before I argue that point.
     
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    So,just for tit for tat-Romney was a Governor & yet his "EXPERIENCE" as GOV should tell everyone then that he has no business IN MY OPINION running for POTUS-Just Saying
     
  15. Southern Man

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    http://youtu.be/ixRRuzmxzTg
     
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    So in your opinion experience as a governor is no good but experience as a community organizer is.
     
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    47TH???? That the experience you are referring to? (third from the bottom in case math isn't your strong suit). Mitt DID head up Obamacare for his state. I give him credit for that.
     
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    Doesn't that suggest it is merely mediocre public policy choices on the part of persons who receive a decent wage and excellent benefits, to provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States. Shouldn't we expect a higher moral Standard from our elected representatives?
     
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    NOTE-What I said "A TIT for TAT-Just Saying---I went & did some research on OBAMA care-----http://factcheck.org/2008/08/more-tax-deceptions/
    See, it is those pesky little deceptions that lead people to post the innacuracies & with google so close at hand--tsk-tsk----
     
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    NOTE-What I said "A TIT for TAT-Just Saying---I went & did some research on OBAMA care-----http://factcheck.org/2008/08/more-tax-deceptions/
    See, it is those pesky little deceptions that lead people to post the innacuracies & with google so close at hand--tsk-tsk----
     
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    Apparently it isn't yours. Massachusetts is the 14th most populous state.

    Since you're a big fan of ObamaCare and think that RomneyCare is the same thing I take it that you'll be supporting Romney.
     
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    So after throwing money at a problem for 50 years and making it worse, your solution is to throw more money at it.

    What is the definition of insanity again?
     
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    No...I think disconnected, super rich, arrogant, corporate rapists should stay in the Cayman Islands with their stolen loot. "You people" crack me up.
     
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    I go with ZERO, NATTA, NIL, NONE. I've seen not one fillibuster. I've heard threats they may filibuster but I've not seen one since, 2003 I think was the last.
     
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    "We people" excelled in math and that made us successful. ;)
     
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