Nigel Farage: West provoked Ukraine war

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    More leftist distortions, if not lies.
     
  2. The Mello Guy

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    So you asked me for proof so you could just agree with whatever he said? lol
    Putin didn’t invade because Biden hurt his feelings. He’d always planned on it. This is at least the third time he’s invaded his neighbors
     
  3. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Is it an alliance or a protection racket?
     
  4. The Mello Guy

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    It’s neither actually. If you folks watched real news sometime, youd know
     
  5. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    It's an alliance where everyone agrees to pay their fair share.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    He didn't invade when Trump was in office...lol
     
  7. garyd

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    It is either one or the other which you would know if you looked at the actual context of what was said.
     
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  8. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    No he just occupied crimea the entire time
     
  9. Robert84

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    It is a very primitive discussion since many of you don't write about the subject of this thread.

    They don't write
    and so on.

    They just write
     
  10. kazenatsu

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    I'd say it's half true that the West is responsible for provoking the Ukraine war with Russia.

    Reality is never entirely so simple, of course.

    The majority of the public seems completely ignorant of the meaningful details leading up to the conflict.

    If you listen to Putin's own words, Russia was complaining but felt completely rebuffed and ignored. I think Russia was feeling like they were being backed into a corner, metaphorically speaking.

    Of course that's only part of the reason Russia decided to invade. But I really do not think Russia would have made this decision if that component had not been there.

    these are some other threads you can see, for anyone very interested in this topic
    History of Ukraine, why it never culturally absorbed into Russia
    Russia launches full invasion of Ukraine
     
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  11. bigfella

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    Is this some odd attempt at humour?

    Labour is heading for one of the largest majorities in British history and the only people talking about 'coalition' with Reform are Tories. Left wing parties won't touch him with a barge poll.
     
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    He is actually fairly bright, but very unpleasant.

    He has been a long time fan of Putin. He was a regular on RT in the 2010s and voted against a 2015 European Parliament resolution condeming Russian human rights abuses. Given Putin's fundung of far right parties all over Europe and Putin's support for Brexit it would not be at all surprising if Farage had at some point recieved funding.

    He knows exactly what he is doing and why.
     
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    Yup, that about nails it.
     
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    I think you’ll find that Reform are eating into the Conservatives much much more than Labour.
    There will be a very clear majority for Labour in the election in 10 days.
    Farage is not looking for a leftist coalition at all. He wants to draw the extreme right of the Conservative Party and electorate to him.
     
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    The psychic eagle that is never wrong says Sunak is staying put.
     
  16. jcarlilesiu

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    Yeah, that quote doesn't say what you and Mello are suggesting it says.

    Putin himself has stated that Ukraines desire to join NATO is partially responsible for invasion.
     
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    If you actually buy Putin's excuses for invading a nation whose sovereignty he had promised to respect, so be it.

    NATO was not encouraging Ukraine to join NATO before the war criminal's invasion.
     
  18. philosophical

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    It will be a close run thing if Prime Minister Sunak even retains his seat in Parliament.
     
  19. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People like him and Trump are quick to parrot Putin propaganda.


    An attack on one member is an attack on all, so he he basically encouraging Russia to attack our allies, and even us. It's beyond stupid
     
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