No way Kavanaigh is getting confirmed without an FBI investigation.

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  1. Mamasaid

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    The FBI isn't just taking statements, they will interview people. There is a big difference. Just because you can't manage to imagine what the experts do in their jobs doesn't mean there isnt anything for them to do.
     
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    Wrong. Kavanaugh jas no right to an FBI investigation, and neither does ford. Neither has aaright to call witnesses, or to enter evidence into the record. It is completely at the discretion of the senators. Kavanaugh has no right to a SCOTUS appointment, and passing over him merely due to suspicion or appearance of criminal activity is absolutely fine and violates nobody's rights.

    You guys really are not getting this.
     
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    Except it's not a trial. So you managed 2 out of 3 words that weren't a light year off base.
     
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    He's being accused of felonies, by members of the JUDICIAL committee, that oversees the FEDERAL COURT system, Silly!

    Democrats are old hands at Lynch Mobs. There is no presumption of innocents with a Lynch Mob.

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    yes we know, any one that is not a Trump republican is not a real republican in some people eyes, to others Trump is not a real republican

    Trump, Roy Moore and now Kavanaigh, what will the right support next?
     
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    I can tell you what patience is growing thin on...And that's duplicity.
     
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    And they don't have to determine guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in order to make a decision on whether or not he gets the most prestigious legal job on the planet, and one that is a lifetime appointment.

    Again, you really are not getting this.
     
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    You're not getting that the charges are not only uncorroborated, but ALL of the witnesses that have been named have REPUDIATED them.

    Dems long to return to their roots of Lynch Mob "Justice".

    We avoid becoming a Lynch Mob by insisting on verification and corroboration before we destroy someone.

    Weird how you are still not getting this.
     
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    People who have already sent in statements with the penalty of perjury. Which means they will say the exact same thing as the judicial committee has already read/heard. The FBI will then present the exact same information everyone already knows, and no new evidence will be found because it was something that happened 36 years ago without a specific time or place. The FBI investigation is a waste of time and just a delaying tactic, which thanks to idiots like Flake the democrats got.
     
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    Shameless lie. You guys keep spouting this lie...I guess you are hoping it will become true, one day....
     
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    Wrong, it would not be perjury. And a false statement made in the sworn statements would not even be a crime, if it was made in error.

    And no, that doesn't mean that only information in the prepared statements will be revealed. The FBI has expert interviewers who can uncover information ommitted in the statements and not even considered when the statements we're prepared. That is their job, in fact.
     
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    yes, but we got two more year before we can vote dirty donald out of the white house, gonna have to deal with his duplicity till then
     
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    It's true now. That poor woman needs serious and careful help and the vile lynch mob Democrats shamelessly exploited her before the entire nation. Lindsey Graham and Kav were right on the money when they called you out on your vile disgusting witch hunt, which is only a continuation of the Trump Witch Hunt, which also has zero evidence.

    You guys are just awful. That is why Hillary Clinton was your nominee, she saw the millions opposed to her as not only Deplorable, but IRREDEEMABLE.

    Just deplorable, maybe you get a reeducation camp, but IRREDEEMABLE?

    The Left is showing a very dangerous bloodlust and they are just dying for a lynching.

    It's really horrible, I thought we curred you folks of this in the Civil War, but, you guys never really faced the horrible history of the Democrat Party, and here you are, returning to your Lynch-Mob Blood-Thirsty Hate-filled ways. How long until Murderous is added to the list?

    We have deep and fundamental reasons for Presumption of Innocence, Verification and Corroboration of charges. Why do WE have constantly bring this to your attention? Given Democrats History, why don't you know this?
     
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    Say what now? I think you misunderstood....Decipto cons like Flake are done in January....Good riddance.
     
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    Name one person that has backed up her story....Just one....
     
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    You are incorrect. The statements that have been submitted by the witnesses were all under the threat of a felony for lying. Not sure why you said it wouldn't be a crime if it was in error, because of course it wouldn't. Perjury is knowingly lying, not being mistaken. You stated the obvious.

    Yes, it is their job. But the FBI are not miracle workers who can drudge up evidence from something 36 years ago. About a party that no one remembers. That the victim can't cite when or where it took place. You're dreaming if you think the FBI investigation will find anything different.
     
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    Its not true. You are intentionally misrepresenting the statements of the other people. And you keep doing it, even after you have been corrected.
     
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    But not perjury, so you were wrong.
    That was in direct response to your implication that, because the information was in a sworn statement, they would not alter their statements later(out of fear of a felony). Clearly this implication by you is incorrect, for the reason I stated.
     
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    You are still incorrect. If say Mark Judge completely changes his story, thats a felony. If any of the other witnesses change their story, thats a felony. The FBI is going to get the same story from everyone that has already been given.
     
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    He has a right present statements of witnesses and enter them into record, he has a right to face his accusers of those accusations and most of all a right to a presumption of innocence of such accusations until evidence or corroboration is presented. And stop with the Kavanaugh has no right to the appointment canard. I understand you want to convict him without evidence or corroboration, but that is not the country in which I want to live.
     
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    And get their statements what do you think the FBI is going to do pull out fingernails and extract a confession of something?

    So has Ford agreed to be questioned by the FBI yet?
     
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    OP told the truth.

    The GOP and Trump base were forced to yield.

    This is a Senate hearing not a courtroom trial.

    The nominee has no presumption of innocence or guilt.

    End of story.
     
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    I have not read back the last several pages but has anyone raised 'Devil's Triangle,' 'boofed,' and 'FFFFFFFouth July?'

    Link.
     
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    Why on earth should he show contrition for something he didn't do? The very action would be an admission of guilt? And your final question - who could possibly know the true nature of the offence and the circumstances, such as if she was drunk too?? Bottom line - it's the word of one against the word of the other.
     
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    She has said she had one drink. However I reckon this has moved on from the Ford allegations and seriously into the credibility of Kavanaugh. There are genuine doubts there, so surely that rules him or anyone in the same boat well out of contention. I say yet again, why MUST he get the appointment? Is there no-one else worthy anywhere in the USA? Come on, the reputation of SCOTUS is of far greater inportance than any one person.
     

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