Now that we're back in power, can we turn the tide on the war on marriage?

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  1. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We're just going in circles now. I'm comfortable with the record as it stands.
     
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    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    It should be applied across the board. All consenting adults should have the right to marry each other. There should be certain limitations, such as with incest couples have children, since it effects the entire gene pool. But since having biological children is not a requirement of marriage, them same sex. polygamy,. and incest marriages between consenting adults should be legal.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL Are you trolling for fish ?
     
  4. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah OKAY LIB! I am SUPER SERIOUS.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Constitution loving fiscal conservative here.

    Constitution say ... Congress no force religious beliefs on others through law.

    Why you want to force your religious beliefs on others ?
    Why you hate the constitution so much ?

    You not know what "real conservative is"
     
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    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    Why does it have to be one? Homosexuals changed the definition of marriage to fit what they wanted it to fit. Why can't the polygamists do the same?

    That's irrelevant, they want the same rights and benefits that everybody else has. Why do you feel it's okay to discriminate against them by denying them the rights and benefits of marriage simply because they're already family?

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    Run away.

    We're only going in circles because you refuse to provide rational justification for your position outside of you don't like it.
     
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    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    Why should you be allowed to limit incestuous couples? If procreation is not relevant to marriage (like the homosexuals and yourself have been arguing) then there should be no limitations. They can have those mutant babies without your consent of marriage.

    As I pointed out before, the only way to accept the perversion of homosexuality is also to begin to accept other perversions such as incest.

    And I'm warning you now that your "consenting adults" argument won't hold up in a court of law with the interpretation of the 14th amendment that the homosexuals have put forth. So not only will you be forced to accept the perversion of homosexuality and incest, but eventually you'll be forced to accept other perversions such as "minor attracted persons" and zoophiles.
     
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    my Right to what a marriage is. Biblically speaking, the same sex unions are two abominations getting hooked up for sex.
    A real honest-to-God marriage is between a Man and a Woman, not Phil and Will.
    "All we want is the Right to get married" and that's a mother(*)(*)(*)(*)ing lie!
    You want to tell the rest of us what a marriage is. The backdoor boys want to "feel" married and to do that they need to alter definitions
    All we want is to have an equal say in how things are done, politically. That's another (*)(*)(*)(*)ing lie;
    They use their political positions to stifle Free Speech and conduct Hitler-style force on those who stand against them.
    The gays can take a long walk on a short pier as far as I'm concerned. They don't tell me what's right and wrong especially since they comprise of only 2% of the worlds population.
    They are mentally defective..........and like most Progressive Liberals, they are abject liars and miserably misleading. Won't even allow them on my property.
    A special place has been prepared for them after they die........................
     
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    Just so you know, a eunuch isn't a homosexual person. It's someone who can't procreate either because of a birth defect or was castrated by their master. Here's what Jesus really said about homosexuality:

    Luke 6:37New King James Version (NKJV)

    Do Not Judge
    37 “Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

    And he said it more than once:

    Matthew 7:1-5Good News Translation (GNT)

    Judging Others
    7 “Do not judge others, so that God will not judge you, 2 for God will judge you in the same way you judge others, and he will apply to you the same rules you apply to others. 3 Why, then, do you look at the speck in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the log in your own eye? 4 How dare you say to your brother, ‘Please, let me take that speck out of your eye,’ when you have a log in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite! First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will be able to see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

    And Saint Paul said it:

    Romans 2 Good News Translation (GNT)

    God's Judgment
    2 Do you, my friend, pass judgment on others? You have no excuse at all, whoever you are. For when you judge others and then do the same things which they do, you condemn yourself. 2 We know that God is right when he judges the people who do such things as these. 3 But you, my friend, do those very things for which you pass judgment on others! Do you think you will escape God's judgment? 4 Or perhaps you despise his great kindness, tolerance, and patience. Surely you know that God is kind, because he is trying to lead you to repent. 5 But you have a hard and stubborn heart, and so you are making your own punishment even greater on the Day when God's anger and righteous judgments will be revealed. 6 For God will reward each of us according to what we have done. 7 Some people keep on doing good, and seek glory, honor, and immortal life; to them God will give eternal life. 8 Other people are selfish and reject what is right, in order to follow what is wrong; on them God will pour out his anger and fury. 9 There will be suffering and pain for all those who do what is evil, for the Jews first and also for the Gentiles. 10 But God will give glory, honor, and peace to all who do what is good, to the Jews first and also to the Gentiles. 11 For God judges everyone by the same standard.

    As the Bible says: Don't judge others.
     
  10. PatrickT

    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    You do an excellent job of showing that the alleged war on marriage is really a cover for your war on gays.

    I wasn't aware that judges were open to impeachment. I thought that was simply for elected positions.
     
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    funny how the gay spout beliefs they don't really believe in................
    It says, judge not, if ye be guilty of this sin. Since I'm not guilty of this sin, I can judge......
    if a man lays with another man as if they were man and woman, they are called abominations. They are soulless in God's eyes. Only if they repent and give up their abominable ways are they to get into heaven......
     
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    CausalityBreakdown Banned at Members Request

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    Poor you, you might lose the right to use your religion to dictate what other people could do.

    If you'd stop top think about that post, all of it is hypocrisy.
     
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    I am a Christian, I believe if I decided to start even thinking about having sex with guys it would be a sin, for me. I also belive God make each of us what he wants us to be, so God makes gay people gay. I know one thing, if them getting married is a sin, that is between them and God. It is certainly none of my buisness. I think the government should err on the side of euality.
     
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    Why do you feel threatened by gay marriage.
     
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    Funny how so called Christians can twist God's words to fit their need to discriminate against others. You are quoting from the old testament. Remember Christ promised a New Covenant for his followers.

    FYI: I'm not gay. I've been married for more than 40 years. I live in a country that recognizes gay marriages and it hasn't affected my marriage one bit.
     
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    TexMexChef Well-Known Member

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    LOL...Gay cases...lol
     
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    could it possibly be because you embrace it?
    It has been said at the end times that the churches will be filled with hypocrites.............I suspect that would include ministers who are looking for numbers in memberships.

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    TFB.........I thought about it before I wrote it. and I am no hypocrite. You are trying to deceive yourself by lying about religion....embrace the Brotherhood of Muslims if you think you are so right and dedicated
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it never ceases to amaze me how callous certain Christians can be in defense of their version of the one true religion.
    Trash the constitution" 'cause we be doin' the lord's work y'all", and yet they call others hypocrites. Hatred and exclusion of others is not what Jesus preached, and yet this attitude is all too common amongst the huddling masses of contemporary Christian America.
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Context? You would have us ignore the context (the question Jesus was asked). And what cross referencing? You mean the passage about eunuchs? How does that add to anything. Even assuming eunuchs mean gays, how does it help your argument to say that gays should not marry women?

    You've got nothing and are grasping for straws.

    Unlike you, I recognize that this is ultimately biblical interpretation and accept that there is no right answer. That's not really a claim. It's an observation. You on the other hand think that your interpretations are CLEARLY correct.

    As I've already thoroughly explained, Jesus was asked whether a husband can divorce his wife. Jesus answered that (and why) a husband cannot divorce his wife. You cite this as direct authority that Jesus said marriage can only be between a man and a woman. In other words, Jesus was answering a very narrow question, and you would have us take the most expansive interpretation possible because it is consistent with your bigotry.

    Well going by your standard, I could just call your argument stupid, irrational and with no justification. But I'm not 6.
     
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    Cool deal!
     
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    no they did not, currently men can marry a women, women should be able to do the same ... equally

    just as in the past a white man could marry a white women, a black man should be able to do the same

    discrimination based on race or gender in marriage is discrimination

    no one has the right to marry more than one person, so that would be extra rights no one has today

    now if there was one group that was allowed to marry more then one partner today, then all groups should have that same right, but no one does

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    I have a theory about this OP. Will PM anybody with it, who is curious.

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    Sure.....God supposedly loves children (Matthew 19:14), yet ordered infanticide. (1 Samuel 15:3)
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    PM me pls. Thanks.
     
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    Kennedy's ruling on DOMA showed that he see's it as a civil rights issue, not a state's right issue. I hope I'm wrong, but I kind of doubt it.
     
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    I meant that should be not allowed to procreate, not that they shouldn't be allowed to marry. They should be required to adopt if they want children. Incest leads to genetic issues that are passed on to future generations. So, children from incest couples endanger the entire gene pool.
     

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