Now that we're back in power, can we turn the tide on the war on marriage?

No, I know what you believe better than you do, and why.

I'll let you figure that out.

Yeah, but as I noted earlier, you didn't say anything.

 

Wow...must be tough when other people's private lives affects the well being of your marriage so much.

 

Back it all up with facts or admit that you having nothing but lies to go on.

 

But the creating of the child is not the part that costs the most money for which we bestow economic benefits on married couples for. The law does that because it recognizes that married couples with children have more expenses than single people or married couples without children. People don't need rewarded because they can biologically reproduce. Remember, children are their own rewards.

The benefit of procreation is the children you create but only if those children are raised as good as they can be. What that requires are parents who love them and nurture them and when it's necessary, be tough on them. Good maternal health during pregnancy is important but after birth it's the mental and social development that is going to drive what that child does in this world. The necessity of parents doesn't end after the doctor spanks the newborn.

If you think that procreation between a man and a woman in a traditional marriage is the only thing that's important, then would you support only providing the tax benefits associated with having children during the course of the pregnancy, since the rest of the child raising seems to have no value to you?

 

Who does a gay person harm? Unless you are spying on them through their bedroom window, seeing them have sex, which might gross you out, there is nothing harmful.

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I'll take my research over your bible that contains no proof of anything

 

Well first of all males who have sex with other males are MUCH more likely to molest a child.

Second of all, they have an INSANELY high level of HIV which not only do they spread to all kinds of other people but it also increases the costs of healthcare for everybody else.

Third, they're doing their best to inundate children with homosexual propaganda in public schools as early as kindergarten.

Fourth, they're doing their best to force churches to rent their facilities to them if they rent those same facilities to ANYBODY who is not in their congregation. So if a church rents their chapel to a couple who is not in their congregation to get married in, then they'd be forced to rent those same facilities to homosexuals for marriage as well. This would force churches either to allow it... or to not rent to ANYBODY outside of their congregation which will cause the closing of many churches.

 

Already done.

I could hardly do that without lying.

You don't do research, you just scarf up other people's research uncritically as long as it validates your newly adopted set of prejudices.

 

And thank you for admitting that you are anti-America and anti-freedom. I'm sorry that you feel that way but I appreciate the honesty on your part. Thank you.

 

This is a bigoted lie.

Not true worldwide....but you know why gay people have a higher rate in the US right? no?

This is borderline insanity and hate speech

Again a church can't be forced to perform a wedding but if they are running a business your religion can't be shield to protect you from the law. If a church has to close because they can't run their business with bigotry then it probably should close since the congregation doesn't care about it.

 

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/saycrle.pdf

You want to try again?

Because they're inherently forced to engage in anal sex if they want to have sex with one another and because the anus is not supposed to have things shoved in it, it ruptures.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1230620
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/24/las-vegas-schools-consider-teaching-kindergartners/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/14/calif-gov-signs-landmark-law-to-teach-gay-history/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/05/22/gay-curriculum-proposal-riles-elementary-school-parents/
http://www.westernjournalism.com/kindergarten-students-to-receive-gay-centric-lesson-plans/

You want to try again?

I didn't say they'd be forced to perform the wedding. I said they'd be forced to allow their facilities, such as their chapel, for gay marriages. And a business can deny service to anybody they want to as long as they're not engaging in interstate commerce.

But regardless, some churches are forced to rent time and space from other churches because they can't afford to rent from somewhere else. So those people, through no fault of their own, would lose their church and many of the churches who have been supporting groups like boy scouts, basketball leagues, charity drives, missionary events, soup kitchens etc etc will be forced to do so.

All because some homosexual wants to pound his buddy out and get paid for it.

 

Gay marriage is really a conservative plot to destroy homosexuals by disabling their gaydar.

 

How do you know homosexuality doesn't negatively affect society? No one can really explain what gay is other than being a preference. If that is the case then beastiality and other sexual perversions could be considered the same.

 

Please, you appreciate honesty like vampires appreciate crosses.

 

No really, thank you for being honest about disliking American values and hating freedom. If only more people on the board were as honest as you are about these types of things.

 

Because I don't live on the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing moon...I live in one of the busiest cities in the world with a large gay community and never once was my personal lifestyle threatened or under siege due to a relationship between any two people, gay or otherwise. Sex with animals is sex with animals; sex between two consenting humans is not akin to sex with animals. Why do those on the right have their minds in the gutter and everything revolves around the sex act? Do all heteros fall in love just because of the sex or are other human emotions involved in the process?

 

I once conducted my own double-blind study on homosexuals and I concluded that they're all gay. It's definitely a causation and not a correlation, when someone's a homosexual, they're also gay. Yet all of these progressives were like "it's just a correlation, why are you such a bigot?!"

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So you admit that gays killed the man in the moon.

 

What American values are those?

i am skeptical that you understand them.

 

Loller at this thread's timing with the 6th Circuit appeals rejecting gay marriage.

 

Are you trolling? I can't tell, help me out here, if you are, bravo man LOL

 

Be careful. Use a condom.

 

That's the best news I've heard in weeks!

 

Liberty and equality for all American citizens. Are you saying those aren't American values?

 

Please cite your first two points. CDC or any other credible source will do.

Third, gay people aren't creating propaganda. If anything, the media is merely talking about it all the time to get it legalized, as the media is liberal.

Fourth, I really don't care about the church's hardships. They don't pay taxes.

 

It's better then you believing in sky fairies and letting it dictate your life :0)

 

No problem.

Child molestation: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/saycrle.pdf

AIDS: A data analysis released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention underscores the disproportionate impact of HIV and syphilis among gay and bisexual men in the United States.

The data, presented at CDC’s 2010 National STD Prevention Conference, finds that the rate of new HIV diagnoses among men who have sex with men (MSM) is more than 44 times that of other men and more than 40 times that of women.

The range was 522-989 cases of new HIV diagnoses per 100,000 MSM vs. 12 per 100,000 other men and 13 per 100,000 women.

The rate of primary and secondary syphilis among MSM is more than 46 times that of other men and more than 71 times that of women, the analysis says. The range was 91-173 cases per 100,000 MSM vs. 2 per 100,000 other men and 1 per 100,000 women.

That's not accurate at all. Gays and their organizations have been giving out propaganda at schools. Including a book like this one:

Okay I tried to put it on here but it's too disgusting it'll probably get me banned or something so here's the link.

WARNING GRAPHIC

And that's just the start... there are dozens of examples of homosexuals using propaganda in our schools to influence children.

And I don't care about the hardships of homosexuals. Yet for some reason it's supposed to be a legitimate argument for their side to cry about how they're being treated.