Obama backs reparations for the first time and slams ‘politics of white resistance’

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  1. rahl

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    uh, there was nothing weak about it. It completely disproved the claim made, that taxation was slavery.
    I simply refuted the notion that taxation was slavery. That is demonstrably false. Taxation is entirely voluntary.
     
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    You are right. 100% tax would be slavery. I am currently at only 50%.
     
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    why not post the exact quote of Obama, if it's as bad as you say.... seems that would be the main quote you post

    "“If you ask me theoretically ‘are reparations justified?’ the answer is yes,” Mr Obama said."

    I agree, "theoretically" reparations should have been paid... to the original freed slaves, but the reality is, it could never be done
     
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  5. Pollycy

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    Either Obama is an idiot for stating the oh-so obvious, or he was bemoaning the more likely fact that he felt thwarted in being able to compliment his socialized-medicine-lite scam, Obamacare, with another big welfare handout designed to keep the Black vote forever....
     
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    No you aren’t.
     
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    You took a tough position to defend. How do you figure?
     
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    Because you aren’t taxed at 50%
     
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    Another stupid left wing idea. How do you decide who gets what?
     
  10. FreshAir

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    how many illegals was Trump's businesses caught hiring?

    the right always attacking the left for what the right does

    Wonder how many Trump supporters are outsourced from other countries?
     
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    he did not say what country he lives in, so maybe?
     
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    If Obama wants to give people his money because he feels guilty about his slave owning ancestors, I say go for it. His Father wasn't a slave so he wouldn't be on the receiving end for sure and I'm sure that he wouldn't want to force his views on others because that's the kind of nice guy he is.
     
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    I will chip in 10 bucks if lefties would stop whining about it.
     
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    NEWSFLASH... US APARTHEID STATE STILL EXISTED UNDER TRUMPS COLLEGE YEARS!

    As if you did not know when the Jim crow era ended with your "reparations for what". People of Trump's generation personally profited from racism, and his parents build that real estate empire he inherited that no black person was able accomplish. From IBM, to Coca Cola to McDonald's,... the US has plenty of companies who were all founded under the apartheid laws and passed their stocks/ownerships who are benefitting from it. And it deffo looks like this refuses to sink in by the conservative white elite, for ONLY the sake of refusing to accept that their accumulated power and wealth has been build upon oppressing black people... not to mention spare a buck for it.


    And you refusing to acknowledge the racism during the Jim Crow era, as if slavery was all that there was, does say it all what kind of ill mindset you're in.
     
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    And you are refusing to acknowledge that there is nothing that anyone can do now to fix that. Or maybe you think there is. I'm open to hear what you suggest could be done to fix all of the wrong that racism has done from 1865 to now. What is the price tag and where would the money go? Let's just get this over and we'll never have to hear about racism again.

    Go.
     
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    NEWSFLASH... IN 1964, THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT BECAME LAW. IN 1965, THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT BECAME LAW. ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS HAVE BEEN FULLY EQUAL BEFORE THE LAW OF THE LAND FOR OVER 56 YEARS!

    To repeat: the overriding question: "REPARATIONS" FOR WHAT?!

    Also, please provide some proof or support for your contention that ALL of America's great wealth was built by White people by exploiting the descendants of freed Negro slaves.

    Consider: Most of America's Black population didn't have any 'wealth' to steal in the first place! Whites 'exploited' other Whites -- like the immigrant Irish, Italians, Germans, Poles, Russians, etc. Whites also 'exploited' the hell out of the Chinese and other East-Asians, throughout the American West.

    THAT is who the 'robber barons' of the late 19th-century 'exploited' -- not a population of poor Blacks who had nothing and did nothing of note but manual labor in low-level jobs....



     
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    Aha, so you went from 157 years ago to 55 years ago. And I just told you it is the reparations from that 1965 era and before. A person like Donald Trump ... PERSONALLY .. benefitted from apartheid rule in his college years, and he inherited a fortune and a company from his parents who forged that while black people were fanatically oppressed and so it all was to benefit from a lack of competition from black people.


    Why should I prove ALL America's great wealth was build by white people by exploiting black people? It's a fact that white people oppressed black people in all kinds of ways, including on area's of the social economic ladder for centuries,.. and only legally ended in 1965. And white people as a whole totally benefitted from it. The last generation who personally did,... is still very much alive.

    That's late, 20th century.
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    And the white population MADE IT SO that up till 1965, the black population was exceptionally poorly educated so they only were able to get a low-level jobs. And with predominantly only being able to get low-level jobs, means their children got raised in neighborhoods that were much more poor, with crappy facilities, were unable to pay for private schools or college tuitions. It's a spiral hard to escape, especially when people refuse to acknowledge it and that being a far cry from correcting the wrong.
     
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    So -- besides the fact that you allege that Donald Trump's wealth was created by oppressing Black people, the truth is YOU'VE GOT NOTHING! The truth? Donald Trump inherited ~$120 million from his father -- who made the money in REAL ESTATE! How many Blacks were involved in any of Trump's father's deals...? I'm sure you know, but for some reason you just won't tell us... right? :roflol:

    Everything I wrote was accurate, including the dates for the ending of slavery, the Civil Right Act, the Voting Rights Act, etc. But you have NOTHING... and, BTW, we never had "apartheid rule" in the United States. You are confusing us with the Union of South Africa back in the day....
     
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    I already explained in my previous post: "he inherited a fortune and a company from his parents who forged that while black people were fanatically oppressed and so it all was to benefit from a lack of competition from black people"


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    American apartheid rule. The separate but equal was all but equal and full fletched apartheid rule. Your denialism is patheticaly dishonest.

    The white population MADE IT SO that up till 1965, the black population was exceptionally poorly educated so they only were able to get a low-level jobs. And with predominantly only being able to get low-level jobs, means their children got raised in neighborhoods that were much more poor, with crappy facilities, were unable to pay for private schools or college tuitions. It's a spiral hard to escape, especially when people refuse to acknowledge it and that being a far cry from correcting the wrong
     
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    So your argument is "Nuh uh" supported with "because you aren't"?

    More than half my labor goes to the government. Federal, state, and city taxes take a huge chunk.
    When I fill my tank, I pay a gas tax on top of a gas tax.
    A new tax was added to registration fees, so the sticker on my license plate was $850.00.
    While providing my family's needs, sales tax is almost 10%.
    Property tax takes another big chunk.
    Cable, cell phone bills come with taxes

    Its bad enough that your party continues to increase the burden on workers, but even worse that people refuse to see it.

    I can easily support the 50% figure without having to factor in the rate in which they print more money. (AKA the cruelest tax)
     
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    I have no obligation to disprove your baseless claim. You provided no evidence to support it. My dismissal is perfectly valid.

    yea, you don't pay 50% in taxes.
     
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    If you are confident in your position, why are you dodging?
     
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    How corrupted has the racial justice crowd become once it begins to judge people for the color of their skin?
     

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