Obama = worst president in history?

No, President Obama is definitely NOT the worst President in history.

George W Bush gets the award. Followed closely by Ronald Reagan & Herbert Hoover. All republicans.

We're still suffering from the crimes committed by Bush & Reagan. It will take decades to repair the damage.

 

not even close to dying. And your beloved GOP's budget was going to be $20 trillion by 2019. Your $22 trillion is merely an extrapolation not including already proposed cuts. Got a long way to go before the US is in serious difficulty.

So now its regulation by the pound? Just in the last 90 days as two huge pieces of regulation start implementation. You know obama care and dodd/frank. Of course the regulations that the right want trashed are wall street, obamacare, epa, labour and energy, while increasing regulations on abortion, woman's health, education, and immigration. considering how much abortin legislation the GOP has invested time effort and energy in, those regulations and policing will be the equivalent of the epa.

Oh dear, Another St. Reagan not know it all. Reagan increased the national debt by 300%, Obama by 53.4% now that is a grossly accurate comparison that liberals make. As for jobs, under reagans first term new 6.5 million jobs under Obama new 3.7 million jobs. I believe the 3.7 million is millions more than Bushie. Ooooops again.

Wow! where on earth did you get those fantasy numbers? Reagan avg. 3.4% gdp growth over his 8 year tenure. Started at 5.8 trillion and ended up at 7.45 trillion. Obama started at 12.88 trillion and was at 13.62 by sept/2012.

Had a much better jump shot tho.

REagan didn't end the cold war, Afghanistan and gorbachov didm but don't let the facts get in the way of your rant.
Actually Obama's vision of promoting democracy is working out, although its too soon to really judge. Democracy took american 8 bloody years to be established. I think it is judicious to give the middle east a few more years. Set the stage for WW3 - sorry if I don't defer to your obvious indepth expertise and knowledge of foreign affairs or economic performance for that matter.

You have an unhealthy fixation on stupidity. You are right bush was by far the worst president in history.

BTW St. Reagan lied to the american people. He was caught in a huge whopper called the iran contra scandal and at the beginning of his second term he had to address the nation and apologize - back then america was a tad more tolerant. I thik you were probably too young to remember that or else you conveniently forgot. (bush - wmd in iraq, saddam & alquaeda -I could go on with his lies). But nobody has caught Obama in a lie yet no matter how hard the squeeze their eyes shut and wish.

A walking contradiction. No facts, lots of worry, but financially safe, denouncing the help offered the poor, while (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about the 47% and the socialist kenyan muslim.

Yep the righties are right on the ball, sharp as tictacs and ignorant as the day is long.

 

tell that to the delusional right wingers who continue to call him a socialist

 

What I find interesting about this is that the first time I heard someone say this was in April of 2009 when the Tea Party began creeping up. Obama had barely had time to unpack and haters were already labeling him. Interesting, I guess haters will hate. That's what they do.

 

One very interesting thing I have seen with the rise of the Tea Party is the belief that a socialist is a person getting government benefits that are different than the ones they are getting. Just saying.

 

If you choose to live your life according to liberal propaganda instead of finding facts for yourself, then all is well for you. Detached from reality but comfortable for you.

The truth and answers are all around you all the time. You just have to keep your eyes and mind open to realize what you're seeing. b.o. won reelection, WHO were the first visitors to the WH? MoveOn.org, community organizers and unions. ALL socialistic groups. But liberal propaganda tells you that means something other than the very obvious that it actually means.

 

Nope, the President doesn't sign the resolutions only the spending bills that result. They never sent them to Bush except for the Defense appropriation which was the Senate version of that bill passed in Oct. 2008.

"Overview

Budget reconciliation is a procedure created in 1974 as a way of making changes in federal policy to meet fiscal guidelines set by Congress. Because the process includes a limit of 20 hours of debate, reconciliation bills cannot be blocked by filibuster in the Senate and need only a simple majority to pass. That has made the process attractive enough to whichever party controls the Senate that a number of major policy changes have been made through reconciliation over the years, and why Congressional Democrats turned to it as a way around unanimous Republican opposition to the health care bills passed by both houses in 2009.

But reconciliation comes with strict rules that bar its use for provisions that do not have a significant fiscal impact. And Republicans denounced the idea of using reconciliation for health care reform—even though when they controlled Congress they used it to create the drug benefit for Medicare, and defended the procedure as recently as 2005.

On March 3, President Obama made clear that he would favor using reconciliation, calling for an "up or down vote.''

And on March 21, the budget reconciliation measure that included the final changes was approved first by the Senate and then by the House on a tumultuous day at the Capitol, as lawmakers raced to complete their work ahead of a two-week recess.

The final House vote was 220 to 207, and the Senate vote was 56 to 43, with the Republicans unanimously opposed in both chambers.

President Obama signed the legislation on March 23. Two days later, the House and Senate completed passage of a set of fixes to the bills, again with Republican opposition."
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/refer...s/c/congress/budget_reconciliation/index.html

Obama owns those deficits just like the 2010-2011-2012 and project deficits over $1,000B as far as the eye can see.

 

And you can choose to live your life according to right wing outright lies instead of finding facts for yourself. You must be very comfortable in the bubble.

yes it means that next week american will become a communist country. Its amazing how dumb some of these right wing bumperstickers are. AS long as it fits on a bumpersticker and promotes fear, hate, or caters to the ignorant, then it goes into the right wing meme factory, churning them out with total disregard to the truth or reality.

BTW. St. Reagan really did increase the national debt by 300%. who'd a thunk?

 

can you define socialism, and provide specific policy examples which lead you to believe obama is one?

 

I"ve made my point. you are trying to blame obama for a budget that was passed prior to him taking office. it's pathetic.

not meaningless at all. you keep trying to blame obama for a budget that was passed and signed into law before he was president. it's pathetic.

of course he inheritted them. he wasn't president when they were passed and signed into law.

 

Of the many the most blatant example of socialism is something called obamadoesn'tcare. Wait till January of 2013 and 2014 when the taxes of everyone go up to fund this behemoth that will become 1/6th of our economy before getting the real taste of what government run institutionalized socialism really looks like. Tell me, do you favor socialism or do you favor good ole Capitalism? Easy answer--its either one or the other, and keep in mind that socialism has been a failure every time its been implemented, whereas good ole Capitalism is the engine that created the most successful economy and military the world has ever known. In case you didn't know--that would be America.

 

this isn't a definition of socialism nor a specific policy example following the definition.

would you like to try again?

 

What are you blind? We here in America are living socialism, and we have been unfortunately living it for the past 4 years. Simple definition of socialism is adherence to government control of our lives by sidestepping and or avoiding our Constitution. Socialism strangles our freedoms and our liberties. The opposite of socialism is capitalism---political science 101.

 

That is not the definition of socialism, nor did you provide specific policy examples fitting the definition of socialism.

would you like to try again?

Here, I'll help you out.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

That's the actual definition, not the made up definition you righties like to parrot.
Now can you provide specific examples fitting that definition?

 

You don't really think he can do you?

This socialism schtick that the right has trumpeted is bogus in the extreme. It fits on a bumpersticker, its sounds like its the worst thing in the world, it induces fear. It caters to the ignorant, who when challenged could neither define or debate the merits and weaknesses of any system including the capitalist system they think they are living under.

Whiole ignorance is not the exclusive domain of the right, they do seem to relish in displaying their command of it.

 

socialism to racist righties is just a coded epithet. They call Obama a socialist because they can't get away with calling him the N-word.

Sign at a Tea Party Rally:

"Keep your socialist hands off my medicare!!!"

sometimes you wonder if morons like that can actually walk and chew gum at the same time.

 

So you guys will defend Obama about being called a socialist, but have nothing to say about him murdering US citizens.

 

"murdering" US citizens?


when you use words imprecisely like that, you lose enormous amounts of credibility.

 

Check the exit poling. People with college degrees, people making over $50,000. Peoiple concerned about our debt. People concerned about the economy ALL voted overwhelmingly for Romney.

People with LESS than a high school diploma. People that were not concerned about the debt or the economy, but DID vote for the person that most "RELATED" to them, voted for barrack usama. A touchy, feely horrible, reason to choose a president. And people making less than $30,000 per year voted overwhelmingly for usama. In fact b.o. got 7 MILLION more votes than Romney from this ONE group. b.o. won by 3.5 million votes. So the under $30,000 dupes reelected barrack usama. You might point out that Hispanics and blacks voted for usama. I'd venture that was not because they are brown or black, but because they are the most poorly educated group in the country. In some areas with large Hispanic populations and good education, Romney won.

So if you are proud that the uneducated dupes that cannot make a decent living for themselves, elected the incompetent politician but genius con man, then that tells all, some pitiful poor things about yourself.

 

[/I]At the end of the day, we all have to understand, that no matter if you did or did not vote. Or like or dislike him, he is the President of the United States of America. That is not going to change. So instead of bickering and complaining, we should try to help him make this country great. Lets get America back on track.

 

I'm sorry, what's a better word for illegally killing somebody?

 

Murder:

— vb
5. ( also intr ) to kill (someone) unlawfully with premeditation or during the commission of a crime

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/murder?s=t

Obama kills US citizens, premeditating it (even making a list for his assassinations, his kill list), while it is fully illegal against both the US constitution and international law.

Sorry but I choose my words carefully. My credibility is just fine.

 

who did he illegally kill?

 

best (*)(*)(*)(*) post on this thread yet.and dont forget to mention be mature enough to admit when you are wrong and not deny reality.