Ocean Heat Has Shattered Records for More Than a Year. What’s Happening?

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  1. Bullseye

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    I can't read your image.
    Books are also often a systematic review.
     
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    I've already proved to you that the political suppression of fossil fuel production that you support is incomparably more lucrative to fossil fuel interests than anything climate realists could possibly do by writing books.
    Where is the evidence for such a claim? Writing books in general is not lucrative at all, except for a handful of best-selling authors, which doesn't include any climate realist I am aware of.
    <yawn> I know those who promote the CO2 climate narrative get all butt-hurt when climate realists don't have to submit to their gatekeeping.
     
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    Lols no books are not “commonly” systematic reviews and just claiming that shows you do NOT know what a systematic review means.
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    https://www.intelligentspeculation.com/blog/hierarchy-of-scientific-evidence

    This varies a little depending on the discipline with medicine being the most strict. Now ask yourself would you believe a text on say, homeopathy over a meta analysis of research?
     
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    No you have “proven” nothing
     
  5. Bullseye

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    Yeah one can throw around the "denialist" stupidity much faster on line. I see why you prefer it.
     
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    The books I'm talking do that. All Phds in climatology or related fields. Just not paid by big government.
     
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    You make no sense. You're not looking at the right books, obviously.
     
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    :lol: Denial ain't just a river in Africa...

    You do know that OPEC's whole raison d'etre is to reduce oil production by political means to increase prices and profits for the benefit of the governments of oil exporting countries, right? You do know that when demand is inelastic, as it is for fossil fuels, reduced production means higher -- often much higher -- profits, right? And you do know that the oil companies have exactly the same interest in lower production and higher prices and profits as OPEC, right? You do know that, right?

    So yes, I most certainly have proven something, and you know it.
     
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    We're in an 8,000 year cooling trend since the Holocene Optimum, so the warmth is welcome.

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    Prior to the ice ages, CO2 levels ranged up to 5 times current levels and life absolutely thrived. Which makes sense, as Earth's natural processes convert carbon to living things.

    WEIRD TO SEE THIS IN A MAINSTREAM OUTLET: Challenging Modern Climate Narratives: Forgotten 1937 Aerial Photos Expose Antarctic Anomaly. “A study using a whaler’s forgotten aerial photos from 1937 shows East Antarctica’s ice has been stable and even grown, . . . Using hundreds of old aerial photographs dating back to 1937, combined with modern computer technology, researchers have tracked the evolution of glaciers in East Antarctica. This area, which spans approximately 2,000 kilometers of coastline, contains as much ice as the entire Greenland Ice Sheet. By comparing the historical aerial photos with modern satellite data, researchers determined the glaciers’ movement and changes in size, revealing that the ice has not only remained stable but also grown slightly over the last 85 years, partly due to increased snowfall. . . . Compared to modern data, the ice flow speeds ... have remained stable or grown slightly in the long term, indicating a system in balance.”

    Which make sense, as we are in an 8,000 year long cooling trend since the Holocene optimum.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_climatic_optimum
     
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    Obviously the atmosphere is not anything even remotely in the vicinity of a controlled environment. Try again. That was laughably lame.
     
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    Did you not grok this was satire?
     
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    Let’s start with the fact that picture is from wiki and it is 2016 so now outdated
     
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    But the fact is that the statement is still accurate.
     
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    Accept we are still calling something a vaccine that does not appear to have kept anyone from getting the disease and simultaneously seems to have inflicted the same side effects at nearly the same rate as the disease itself Everything is subject to the corrupting touch of big government over time.
     
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    I have issues with the Extinction Party crying wolf about global change when global change is a fact of life. If the Earth did not change back in millennia, we would still be swimming in the sea.
    If Earth decides to shake us off and start over, there nothing humans can do to stop it. We are due for a die off, anyway.
    We have had volcanos alter the weather for a short time, but that's about all the short time change you will get. BUT, I don't hear any plans to cap Hawaii under a glass dome, yet. Or did I miss it?
     
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    DeSantis rejects climate change rationale for record-breaking rain

    The rain has become political in Florida.

    As residents and businesses in South Florida assessed the damage from this week’s historic rainfall and floods, Gov. Ron DeSantis and his administration pushed back against assertions that the storm had anything to do with climate change.

    A number of records were set as the storm known as Invest 90L inundated roads from Sarasota to West Palm Beach. “Living in Florida, what we’re seeing now is not just the same kind of weather that’s been happening for a thousand years,” said state Rep. Daryl Campbell, a Democrat whose district is in Broward County. “We see the impacts of climate change on our day-to-day lives, and we see a governor who vetoes what the legislature passed unanimously to help deal with it.”

    Last month, a record-breaking heat wave enveloped the state, with temperatures as high as 115 degrees in Key West. The summer of 2023 was the hottest on record for several cities in Florida.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/06/15/desantis-florida-storm-floods-rain/

    Record breaking heat, warming ocean temps to new highs, historic flooding, I'm sure it's just a coincidence. ;)
     
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    What we don't know often has a lot to do with changes in many things. As the saying goes- we don't know what we don't know.
    There's a theory with some foundation regarding huge cosmic gas clouds that drift in the universe, and one is suspected to have triggered an ice age about 2 million years ago. This cloud is suspected to have caused the heliosphere of our solar system (the area of sun's effect) to shrink dramatically. The potential exists for such a phenomenon to increase it as well.
    What we don't know, and are often unwilling to consider because we think we already know everything... Can hurt us.
     
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    At the end of last year, people were complaining the aquifer below Sarasota was being depleted by heavy usage surpassing rainfall. Now, heavy rain (extreme precipitation events are a primary driver of unconfined aquifer replenishment) that will replenish that aquifer is demonized. What the hell do you people want? You complain when too many people use too much groundwater. Then old Mother Nature gives you the perfect weather event to remedy that situation and you **** some more! It’s unbelievable. But I guess when folks aren’t educated on the subject you can get them to believe any kind of nonsense….
     
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    Weather.
     
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    Nah down wind from one of earth's most active volcanoes is where they collect CO2 data.
     
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    All part of the planned propaganda offensive.

    Climate Propaganda Cabals Ramp Up the Heat for Summer
    Kip Hansen
    Covering Climate Now [CCNow], the Columbia University-based climate propaganda outfit, which claims the ability to reach over 2 billion people worldwide with its ready-to-use, ready-to-share and content-directed climate alarm stories,…
     
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    Yep, the ususal climate change deniers will claim that there is nothing to see here. No streak of recod temperatures in India, up to 126 F, killing people and resulting in 40,000 incidents of heat stroke:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2...ndia are,the government's weather bureau said.

    It's all perfectly normal and nobody should worry and continue to drive their huge gas guzzling vehicles. Just crank the AC to the max. Who cares if the time comes when nobody can leave the house in the summer because or record heat, wildfire smoke, or both. All hail the oil industry.
     

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